Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldtom]

In case anyone has forgotten, the stupid, lying bitch who is determined to drag the UK into international oblivion was once Home Secretary in the UK; possibly the worst Home Sec ever.

These numbers are revealing:



While she was Home Secretary Theresa May let literally hundreds of Russian oligarchs and Putin cronies buy their way into Britain (many of whom went on to pour cash into Tory party coffers to help them continue waging economic war on ordinary British people through austerity dogma, social security cuts, and deliberate wage repression policies).


Now she's pretending to be all tough on Russia, and huge numbers of mainstream media rote learners are actually gullible enough to believe her empty posturing.

Tom

 

[oldtom]

I don't know how many examples it takes before it registers with the public at large just how much of a liar the Prime Minister really is:



Don't believe the Tory lies on police funding. Funding has been cut. The numbers of police have been cut by 21,500. The numbers of PCSOs cut by 6,000.

Tom

 

[oldtom]

I picked this up from FB and in the light of the Cambridge Analytica story, it seems only right and proper that everyone should be aware of the kind of stuff that has been going on and continues to go on:



"It doesn't have to be true it just has to be believed": An actual Cambridge Analytica quote.

It's astounding that people on this thread are trying to actually defend the deliberate targeting of lies at people who have been psychologically profiled (through the use of stolen data) as gullible enough to believe them by pretending that allowing this kind of subversive and downright dangerous election rigging tactic is somehow "listening to both sides of the debate".

Still, the mental gymnastics Brextremists will do to defend their ideology in the face of the brazen lies they were told, and the chaos they've created never ceases to amaze.

The whole 'Brexit case, right from the outset has been predicated on lies and fairy-tale statistics to such an extent that the whole business is now more toxic than the so-called 'Military Grade Deadly Nerve Agent' that the con-artists, May & Johnson, have accused the Russians of planting on Russian people in Salisbury without, it seems, any proof whatsoever.

Tom

 

[Danidl]

From the Telegraph
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Exclusive Boris Johnson compares Putin's annexation of Crimea with Hitler's occupation of the Sudetenland

Probably a fair comparison. Not aware what the percentage of Germans were in the Sudetenland, but if where 80% to 90% then it is a close comparison.

 

[Danidl]

I don't know how many examples it takes before it registers with the public at large just how much of a liar the Prime Minister really is:

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Don't believe the Tory lies on police funding. Funding has been cut. The numbers of police have been cut by 21,500. The numbers of PCSOs cut by 6,000.

Tom

Protecting is a weasel word. It is not as definite as maintaining, ringfenicng , increasing etc...

 

[oldgroaner]

Probably a fair comparison. Not aware what the percentage of Germans were in the Sudetenland, but if where 80% to 90% then it is a close comparison.

He conveniently forgets that the conservative government of the time regarded Hitler as reposessing what was rightfully Germany's and let it pass, even agreed to it

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[flecc]

He conveniently forgets that the conservative government of the time regarded Hitler as reposessing what was rightfully Germany's and let it pass, even agreed to it

I don't know why Boris bothered.

Many would say the EU is the Fourth Reich, seeing it as Germany running the show.
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[oyster]

Kaiser

Let us spend time reflecting on the irony of that name.

 

[anotherkiwi]

Let us spend time reflecting on the irony of that name.

I'm glad you went there first because her first name is Brittany...

 

[tillson]

In case anyone has forgotten, the stupid, lying bitch who is determined to drag the UK into international oblivion was once Home Secretary in the UK; possibly the worst Home Sec ever.

These numbers are revealing:

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While she was Home Secretary Theresa May let literally hundreds of Russian oligarchs and Putin cronies buy their way into Britain (many of whom went on to pour cash into Tory party coffers to help them continue waging economic war on ordinary British people through austerity dogma, social security cuts, and deliberate wage repression policies).


Now she's pretending to be all tough on Russia, and huge numbers of mainstream media rote learners are actually gullible enough to believe her empty posturing.

Tom

This woman immeasurably incompetent. She has failed in every office she has held and only became PM as a result of extraordinary circumstances. She is incapable of listening and taking advice and as a consequence, poses a serious threat to the people who live in this country. She has totally mishandled The Salisbury poisoning and as time goes on, I’m becoming more convinced that the Russian establishment were not involved. Putin would have been crazy to have chosen the timing to coincide with events in Russia. She has created an unnecessary enermy and entered into an unnecessary conflict with that powerful and potentially dangerous opponent. What a complete idiot, the first rule of combat is not to pick an unnecessary fight.

I hope someone or something puts an end to her premiership for the sake of everyone.

 

[oldgroaner]

This woman immeasurably incompetent. She has failed in every office she has held and only became PM as a result of extraordinary circumstances. She is incapable of listening and taking advice and as a consequence, poses a serious threat to the people who live in this country. She has totally mishandled The Salisbury poisoning and as time goes on, I’m becoming more convinced that the Russian establishment were not involved. Putin would have been crazy to have chosen the timing to coincide with events in Russia. She has created an unnecessary enermy and entered into an unnecessary conflict with that powerful and potentially dangerous opponent. What a complete idiot, the first rule of combat is not to pick an unnecessary fight.

I hope someone or something puts an end to her premiership for the sake of everyone.

Not IMMEASUREABLY incompetent, when the likes of Cameron, Osborne, Davis, Fox, Gove, Hunt and the immensely bloated Ego of Boris are there to compare her with.
And of course Captain Haddock (Sorry Lord Nigel)

We could actually have cornered the Market for the most incompetent bunch of Politicians in world History

And the Media Barons like Murdoch and our home grown shower, make Saddam's old information Minister "Comical Ali" look well informed.

Interestingly for some reason Trump reminds me of Ali.

 

[anotherkiwi]

Not IMMEASUREABLY incompetent, when the likes of Cameron, Osborne, Davis, Fox, Gove, Hunt and the immensely bloated Ego of Boris are there to compare her with.
And of course Captain Haddock (Sorry Lord Nigel)

We could actually have cornered the Market for the most incompetent bunch of Politicians in world History

And the Media Barons like Murdoch and our home grown shower, make Saddam's old information Minister "Comical Ali" look well informed.

Interestingly for some reason Trump reminds me of Ali.

Not a chance in the world against Australian politicians! They are even stupider than the Americans!

 

[tillson]

Not IMMEASUREABLY incompetent, when the likes of Cameron, Osborne, Davis, Fox, Gove, Hunt and the immensely bloated Ego of Boris are there to compare her with.
And of course Captain Haddock (Sorry Lord Nigel)

We could actually have cornered the Market for the most incompetent bunch of Politicians in world History

And the Media Barons like Murdoch and our home grown shower, make Saddam's old information Minister "Comical Ali" look well informed.

Interestingly for some reason Trump reminds me of Ali.

I agree. I don’t know why it is but our MPs & ministers look, act and sound like fools. That’s true for all political parties. When I see many foreign leaders on TV, they always strike me as being more statesman like and portray leadership. A total contrast to here. Joking apart the state of our parliament and the lack of respect MPs command from the public is a very serious problem. It’s not good for anyone and I don’t know how things can be improved. The lack of trust, lack of confidence and lack of respect seems to have penetrated into the DNA of the establishment.

 

[oldgroaner]

On QT it is obvious that the Government regard Russia as an enemy.
They actually accuse Russia of waging war on our soil by "Recent Murders" until corrected.
Not a very bright point of view

By the by the unfortunate couple are still critical but staple and the Police officer has been released from Hospital.
So much for long term effects, I hope for his sake they don't forget about checking up on his condition, just in case.

We don't seem to be hearing anything more about actual evidence do we?

 

[oldgroaner]

Not a chance in the world against Australian politicians! They are even stupider than the Americans!

Fortunately they are as far away as one might wish ours could be!

 

[anotherkiwi]

On QT it is obvious that the Government regard Russia as an enemy.
They actually accuse Russia of waging war on our soil by "Recent Murders" until corrected.
Not a very bright point of view

By the by the unfortunate couple are still critical but staple and the Police officer has been released from Hospital.
So much for long term effects, I hope for his sake they don't forget about checking up on his condition, just in case.

We don't seem to be hearing anything more about actual evidence do we?

The French expression for their stance is "De la poudre aux yeux" and is 100% related to Brexit. Do something, do anything to attract attention away from the real problem at hand. I am not saying 3 people getting ill in a mysterious fashion isn't a real problem - it is a real crime most probably, but that is no reason to blow it up out of all proportion.

 

[Woosh]

MI5 sure have a fat dossier on Russians' WMD for years.
have you wondered what our government is going to do about that..

 

[oldgroaner]

MI5 sure have a fat dossier on Russians' WMD for years.
have you wondered what our government is going to do about that..

Pretty much what the Russian's will do about ours I imagine!

 

[flecc]

the state of our parliament and the lack of respect MPs command from the public is a very serious problem. It’s not good for anyone and I don’t know how things can be improved.

We need a strong dictator to put things right. Just look how Comrade Vladimir in just 20 years turned Russia from a broken down post USSR mess with despairing citizens into a successful nation with the people having pride in their country. Of course he gave a kick up the arse to the neighbours to help with that, but everything has a cost.
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[oldgroaner]

We need a strong dictator to put things right. Just look how Comrade Vladimir in just 20 years turned Russia from a broken down post USSR mess with despairing citizens into a successful nation with the people having pride in their country. Of course he gave a kick up the arse to the neighbours to help with that, but everything has a cost.
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No thank you very much, TM imagines she is doing exactly what you describe and the results are unacceptable.

Dictators have always been disastrous, even though they usually show a short term profit of a sort that seems attractive to the external observer.

It always ends in tears.