Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Oh dear, these weapon wielding, fake refugee, men children look as though they need a liberal application of CS Gas, Water Cannon and a peppering of Baton Round.

It’s no more than anyone would expect from the French than to weasel out of their Schengen Zone obligations. No surprises here, it is after all the French we are dealing with.


Dont you want our Border to be at the Channel?
What happened to taking back our borders?
How can we have it in France?
 

oldgroaner

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So Downing Street has ruled out staying in any form of Customs Union with the EU.
A Mad decision, this will prove the crucial Nail in Brexit's Coffin, and bring the days when trouble hits the streets closer by years.
Now let's see the Government pass to the Three Stooges so that they carry the can.
 
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A Mad decision, this will prove the crucial Nail in Brexit's Coffin, and bring the days when trouble hits the streets closer by years.
Now let's see the Government pass to the Three Stooges so that they carry the can.
it shows who runs the country.
 
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tommie

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Please can you take your Farage back please, he is making a pest of himself here. Telling lies to our gullible students,. Any polls taken in Ireland have put a 78% pro European majority and he is claiming it's down at 60% , without any evidence.
Hmmmm.... but it`s ok for the EU to tell you lies, threaten, intimidate, coerce?

The Irish have foreigners telling them what to do anyway in the EU. Or did you somehow think that IRE volunteered to accept 44℅ banking debt.??!!
 
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oldgroaner

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Alittle light relief from the Mirror
"
Aldi recalls 38,000 bags of frozen veg after customer finds half a RAT in one
The supermarket giant is investigating after the horrific incident"

A little extreme to look for a measly half of a rat!

The two characters in tom's post must have found it!
 
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Hmmmm.... but it`s ok for the EU to tell you lies, threaten, intimidate, coerce?
the hard brexiters intend on showing a clear distance with the EU27, that means no deal, nevermind that such an outcome will cost our manufacturing and inward investment.
Trust me, the American banks will be the first to decamp to the EU27, followed by American car manufacturers.
 

oldgroaner

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Hmmmm.... but it`s ok for the EU to tell you lies, threaten, intimidate, coerce?

The Irish have foreigners telling them what to do anyway in the EU. Or did you somehow think that IRE volunteered to accept 44℅ banking debt.??!!
And of course Boris, Gove and Rees Mogg aren't doing exactly that on a daily basis?
 
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oldgroaner

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the hard brexiters intend on showing a clear distance with the EU27, that means no deal, nevermind that such an outcome will cost our manufacturing and inward investment.
Trust me, the American banks will be the first to decamp to the EU27, followed by American car manufacturers.
Let's face it,the Brextremist Faction are not concerned with the economy, or any of that boring stuff, they just want power and to please whoever is manipulating them.
 
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They lie publicly to all of us.
I reckon they have a valid point of view to make, that is democracy comes at a high economic cost. There must be a day and year zero somewhere, so why not 'independence day'?
To me, right or wrong democratic decisions, democracy needs to be tested to be valid.
 
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Hmmmm.... but it`s ok for the EU to tell you lies, threaten, intimidate, coerce?

The Irish have foreigners telling them what to do anyway in the EU. Or did you somehow think that IRE volunteered to accept 44℅ banking debt.??!!
My understanding is that the ECB went beyond its mandate and forced advice which it was not empowered to give. , At a time when the ground rules had not be established. It was a panicked response to an unprecedented situation. The problem being the nature of banking legislation and why a public body, the state, accepts the debt set up by a private body, a bank, escapes me.
 
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The problem being the nature of banking legislation and why a public body, the state, accepts the debt set up by a private body, a bank, escapes me.
it's usually because the consequences of a large bank failing is just too awful to contemplate.
 

oldgroaner

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I reckon they have a valid point of view to make, that is democracy comes at a high economic cost. There must be a day and year zero somewhere, so why not 'independence day'?
To me, right or wrong democratic decisions, democracy needs to be tested to be valid.
Not when a vote was based on lies, and many were excluded
Why should we have to suffer the consequences?
And why is there a cost anyway when a boom was promised?
Should be cancelled as not conforming to the promises made, unfit for purpose.

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Which half was it?
 
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Woosh

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Not when a vote was based on lies, and many were excluded
How do you know who lied more than whom?

Why should we have to suffer the consequences?
You don't know for sure which brexit we are going to get, how do you know if you are going to suffer?

And why is there a cost anyway when a boom was promised?
There has always been a cost to all the votes. If there weren't any, votes wouldn't be needed.

Should be cancelled as not conforming to the promises made, unfit for purpose.
fitness for the purpose is not the purpose of the vote. People voted for change, so the politicians are mandated to bring about changes.
 

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