Brexit, for once some facts.
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Having eschewed BBC TV for the whole of last evening in favour of constructing a list of people I'd like to participate in a programme I'm devising called 'Youth in Asia', my attention was drawn to this candidate and he fits the bill perfectly:
Tom
Tom
No Tommie, not correct. The rest of the UK voted in a majority for Brexit, in large part to keep strong control on immigration.
There is no problem, the position is simple:
Brexit = Closed Irish border.
Remain in EU = Open Irish border.
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I thought not OG...and by the way as yet we have no FTA with India...both India and Austalia have told us they would expect relaxation of Visa requirements for certain people in the event of FTAs. ( not total free movement and has not happened yet, it cant whilst in EU)
Besides, its irrelevant to point I made..( Australia are wanting free movement for business leaders, I cant imagine Australians wanting to come for menial work, unless they want the weather)
Besides, its irrelevant to point I made..( Australia are wanting free movement for business leaders, I cant imagine Australians wanting to come for menial work, unless they want the weather)
.. you are , I take it referring to a full general strike? Last time I looked all those 60 million + UK subjects are also EU nationals and last time they were polled 15 million of them actually voted to so remain.
In essence that is the kernel of the debate. All UK subjects are EU citizens and nationals, but not all EU nationals are UK subjects.
For some reason, it appears that the Trolltown fugitive disagrees with that premise.
Tom
Of course, because there is no future intention for South Korea to be part of a United Europe.
Free movement of peoples (not just labour) is part of being in one country.
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The British government, the incompetents intent on dragging the UK out of the EU for their own selfish reasons, are controlling the media to such an extent that the BBC have failed to report on the colossal number of deaths which can be linked directly to their cruel austerity programme.
Why would the BBC do a thing like that? Here is their reply to that very question (reported by 'The Canary' but curiously, ignored by most mainstream media):
Yet their are still people who vehemently refuse to accept that they have been brainwashed by right-wing propaganda for decades. They still seem to believe that dear old 'auntie' is resolutely straight down the middle when it comes to politics, indeed some consider it leftist! Therein lies the amazing success of the British establishment's mindbending programme through their agents, the mainstream media and the tory party.
Tom
Why would the BBC do a thing like that? Here is their reply to that very question (reported by 'The Canary' but curiously, ignored by most mainstream media):
Yet their are still people who vehemently refuse to accept that they have been brainwashed by right-wing propaganda for decades. They still seem to believe that dear old 'auntie' is resolutely straight down the middle when it comes to politics, indeed some consider it leftist! Therein lies the amazing success of the British establishment's mindbending programme through their agents, the mainstream media and the tory party.
Tom
Shouldn't be a problem us having an FTA and no free movement then flecc..???
most FTAs don't come with free movement, only some relaxation of rules to get a business visa. However, freedom of movement was built in right from the inception of the common market and did not cause any problem for many decades until the right wing press uses it for their campaign.
Whilst not complete this gives a fair idea Wikipedia Northern Powerhouse
No doubt to be knocked by our resident doomsayers but it seems a far better plan than local Enterprise Zones have ever been.
Zathlan, you are confusing the word possible with problem or probably. .. it is possible, highly unlikely, and the tenor of the UK conversation makes it less probable.
Obviously, the Brexit effect and yet you seem to conveniently forget that over recent years we outperformed everyone else in the EU. How on earth can you get satisfaction from pumping out continual negative headlines.
"Probably"....doesn't quite cut it and lets call a Tory...a Tory...I mean be proud for heavens' sake.
I applaud you for being true to your principles and having the gumption as an Englishman to choose to live in Scotland even while criticising the Scottish Government......you know the one that gave you free prescriptions and no tuition fees. This shows remarkable intestinal fortitude in someone living in Dundee....along with the ability to run very fast on demand....Kudos.
Dan, you say the tenor of the UK conversation and yet seen from here the EU aren't exactly accommodating are they. In your position as somewhat detached from the rest of us. Do you get to see and hear what the other countries in the EU have to say for themselves? Even as I say that I realise that the likelihood of anyone outside the inner-circle of the negotiations is only going to get the 'informed' opinion of their local media. I feel fairly sure that there is a game going on here as both sides set themselves up to pacify their home audience. In our case it's the divorce settlement and just how big a number it ends up at. There was some talk today about the 'rebate' being held back, by the EU whereas from our side that is an amount that we would probably use to soften any blow. All very difficult and it was always claimed to be so, not an easy ride for either side.