Brexit, for once some facts.

PeterL

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You continue to regurgitate the major lie about 'Brexit'.

In spite of the long-standing invitation to all 'Brexidiots' to explain exactly how, when and where will the people of the UK be better off outside of the EU, neither you nor any of the other brainwashed fools has come up with one good reason

To pontificate about there being great opportunities is to simply repeat the rhetoric and ignore reality but that seems to be a common trait among all those stupid enough to have fallen for a pack of lies in the first place and now cannot admit they made a mistake.

Tom
Would seem someone has a hand up your backside Tom.


 
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oldgroaner

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Rubbish and a distortion of the facts, as usual. The whole point of this bill is to stop the stupidity of attempting to discuss each and every law. Instead we simply bring everything into UK Law and then discuss. It is certainly not about reducing the rights and the protection of us all.
"Rubbish and a distortion of the facts, as usual. a perfect description of your post.
You really cannot believe that the Tory party will not pick away at any legislation that undermines profit surely?
That would go against all they have done or attempted to do in the past.
And you haven't answered the question,
Why do they want powers to reduce our rights? when they should be enhancing them as the EU do?

They should be enshrining them in law
That is what Brexit Voters want, not for their situation to be made worse.
This sort of idiotic ill advised and arrogant action will end up causing trouble on the streets, as the Government is beginning to look like an occupying Foreign Power.

Come on give a straight answer for the first time in your life,
 
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oldgroaner

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they don't even have to do that, they just put our £11 billions a year manque a gagner on to the pile of RAL which is at £250 billions currently.
Until everyone is clear on where we stand with regard to our liabilities, the hard brexiters will continue to promise big gains post brexit, little is made about their the caveat in small prints 'if the future government adopts the right policies'. Would our parliament bring these hard brexiters to the HOP and get them to explain what their 'right policies' are?
"'if the future government adopts the right policies'."
By reducing wokers rights and other standards and environmental protection to achieve cost reductions.
Yes they did that yesterday in Parliament.
 
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PeterL

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They should be enshrining them in law
Come on give a straight answer for the first time in your life,
That, essentially, is what is happening.

Into UK law, not EU law. No doubt some will be changed, modified, enhanced or as you say even removed, to better reflect our UK needs.
 

oldgroaner

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That, essentially, is what is happening.

Into UK law, not EU law. No doubt some will be changed, modified, enhanced or as you say even removed, to better reflect our UK needs.
Let me guess who this "our" needs refers to
Dyson has stated he wants the power to instantly hire and fire people.
From the BBC
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Billionaire businessman James Dyson has sparked outrage after he said it should be easier to hire and fire people.

The Brexit-supporting vacuum inventor also called for the government to scrap corporation tax, saying profits shouldn’t be taxed.
He told the BBC’s Andrew Marr: ‘Since I don’t know what orders I’m going to get next month or next year, and the manufacturing industry is very volatile, not being able to flex your work force is another big reason why you wouldn’t start a manufacturing business or expand a manufacturing business.’

Rather blows your assuptions out of the water, doesn't it? and yet you still support the Conservatives.
Isn't it time you started to think about what they are doing in your name?
 
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oldgroaner

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The evil people populating the government benches in the HofC have once again been found to have acted illegally. The Supreme Court has ordered the government to repay all those who were forced to pay to have their unfair dismissal claims heard:

tory-ministers-spent-283000-lawyers-11527568

Tom
I think perhaps a few words of encouragement from the Government apoligists on the Forum are called for here.
Come on brighten our morning with some pearls of wisdom.

Sell us the idea it is OK for the Government to flout the law, or should they simply change it to suit themselves and quash the sentence?
That would be the Tory thing to do after all.
 
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That will be this Sivier I presume.

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".Mr Sivier’s extensive writing provides Campaign Against Antisemitism with an unwelcome resumé of the varieties of antisemitism that have emerged in the contemporary Labour Party. He is not only antisemitic on several counts under the terms of the International Definition of Antisemitism, but, en route, defends many of the leading individuals responsible for it. Not content with that, he has shown himself to be unconcerned about both linking to and being reposted by a neo-Nazi.

In the light of this, and the very public nature of his extensive and offensive posts, it seems inconceivable that he has been allowed to stand as a Labour Councillor in next month’s elections. We call on the national and local Labour Party in Radnorshire and Builth Wells to deselect him as a candidate immediately."

End quote. ( From CAA. Campaign Against Antisemitism)

Seems he,s not quite someone to admire is he Tom...like rest of hypocritical loonies on extreme left.

Perhaps he,s another one who should be examining his own terrible morals rather than commenting on others'. Rather like your self Tom.
You keep promoting new reasons to keep labour out of power..really well done Tom. Antisemitism is just such a reason making labour party unelectable, one of many, unfortunately, at the moment.
And there I was thinking you were against Nazis and fascists.
Actually he sounds just like you.wonder how much affect his Vox political has had on you..???Its worked hasn't it. Brainwashed.
 
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Danidl

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That will be this Sivier I presume.

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".Mr Sivier’s extensive writing provides Campaign Against Antisemitism with an unwelcome resumé of the varieties of antisemitism that have emerged in the contemporary Labour Party. He is not only antisemitic on several counts under the terms of the International Definition of Antisemitism, but, en route, defends many of the leading individuals responsible for it. Not content with that, he has shown himself to be unconcerned about both linking to and being reposted by a neo-Nazi.

In the light of this, and the very public nature of his extensive and offensive posts, it seems inconceivable that he has been allowed to stand as a Labour Councillor in next month’s elections. We call on the national and local Labour Party in Radnorshire and Builth Wells to deselect him as a candidate immediately."

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Seems he,s not quite someone to admire is he Tom...like rest of hypocritical loonies on extreme left.

Perhaps he,s another one who should be examining his own terrible morals rather than commenting on others'. Rather like your self Tom.
You keep promoting new reasons to keep labour out of power..really well done Tom. Antisemitism is just such a reason making labour party unelectable, one of many, unfortunately, at the moment.
Zathlan, when quoting someone else, it is usual to identify the source of the quote. Then any reader can check up on the bono fides of the original author. Probably just a simple omission on your part.

What I find amusing? is that the term anti-Semitic is generally considered as a pro Arab and Anti Jewish adjective. Both the Jewish people and the Arabic peoples are both Semitic . Of course there are people of the Jewish religion who are not Semitic.
 

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