Battery Fires

Ghost1951

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Many things and technologies we use can pose a risk. Some like petrol powered transport are extremely dangerous if misused or damaged.

I remember once a long time ago on a motorway journey with my family, stopping in a service area and noticing a very strong smell of petrol from the jag that was parked next to my car. An older chap was fiddling about in the boot and because of the smell of petrol I went to have a chat with him. His very disabled and immobile wife was sitting in the car and the boot had petrol swilling about on the floor. The fuel hose came up through the floor of the boot and was perforated where it joined onto a spigot from the tank and fuel pump on its way to the engine. I sorted it it out for him, cleaned up the petrol on the boot floor, and helped him stop his car becoming a fie bomb and wife cremation machine.

Many things we use daily could pose grave risks to the stupid and unwary. The point is we learn how to use them properly. That is the way things have operated nearly all of my life, and I think it is a big mistake to restrict by law, everything that could possibly cause harm if abused by an idiot so that sensible people have a hard time getting around the permission to do ordinary things. We have already gone much too far down the control and prohibition route of late in my opinion. Idiots will kill themselves. Sensible people won't. It is harmful to interfere with natural selection. This is what made the species so successful.
 
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Crikey, I briefly had a gold Rover Fastback 800 (the tank) in late 90s, whilst it had a legit MOT when I got it I didn't realise that the pipe from the fuel filler cap to the tank was badly rusted and it got much worse very quickly, last time I tried to fill it on petrol station forecourt half the petrol I was putting in was came straight out a large hole that appeared in the pipe and spewed on to forecourt...took me few seconds to realise, dude in kiosk was not amused as he had to bring out buckets of sand and spray it down...banned!

So for next week or so I used a jerry can to get petrol and took it to a rough piece of ground to fill then moved car and carefully burnt off any spilled petrol. Took it to a guy who does MOTs and is a welder and he knocked up a replacement pipe in minutes and fitted it, I was quite impressed with his speed and skills and that he didn't drain the tank first...
 

Ghost1951

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Natural selection has probably taken that 'guy who does mots' by now.
 

Ghost1951

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If only that was true... In reality idiots rarely face consequences of their actions. It is everybody else who is paying the bill.
Yes - we brought in cradle to grave income support and developed s system where feckless people could have their children paid for. There are places I could take you too where multi generational wefareism is rife.
 

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Natural selection has probably taken that 'guy who does mots' by now.
He ran a successful family garage business for decades before he retired, was well known respected local guy, probably he knew what he was doing.

The Rover had in interesting demise, it got one more MOT however one evening putting fuel in the rover, it was really really long car with the bumpers so in smaller forecourts (old Esso station on Great Western Rd Kelvinbridge, tiny forecourt, now Tescos and flats) like you used to get it was left at a bit of an angle, when I left and tried to start it the key snapped when I turned it, left with plastic fob in hand and key stuck in ignition...

Went in to shop to tell woman that car was stuck, all I could do was get a push from other drivers to push it back off forecourt in to corner parking with some careful steering. 3 guys lined up pushing bonnet, I'm hanging in door pushing too with right hand on wheel hoping to steer it enough in to parking spaces where I came in.

Then the steering lock engaged before we got it even 1m, now it's stuck, can't go forward or will hit the newspaper display, can't go back as front will catch pump. Stuck. I said I'd get a recovery truck but would be morning, woman not best pleased said she would call her boss. I jokingly asked her if she new anyone who could break a steering lock? Dude in shorts and t-shirt who was in queue came over and said he'd take a look...

Dude went to his boot and pulled out a long bit of wood carved out at certain points. He spent probably 15mins cursing and sweating trying to break the steering lock then he got it, then he pulled out wires and messed about with fuse box, long story short he got it started and showed me the two wires to short. His immediate advice was to drive it close and leave it, you've got a few miles most before battery dies.

Was lovely evening though and still plenty light and I was still quite young so I drove it home to BBriggs, no radio or indicators though ;-)

Got a scrappy in Maryhill to take it for free so only had to drive it there on a Sat afternoon, charged battery, was only approx 4 mile trip via back roads, what could go wrong? Rain, so car had basic power, most of the other circuits were dead so no wipers, headlights, heater etc. Not a problem for first couple miles then it started to steam up. Then funny enough it started overheating. Had to break drivers/passengers windows so we could see. Limped it within an inch of it's life to the scrappy, there was a hill to get in to the yard, took 3 runs as I couldn't see for rain, condensation and steam from engine, head stuck out window.

Got a sarcastic round of applause from scrappy guys when finally got it in to yard.

Dude that hot wired car was probably younger than me and had cpl of facial slash scars, he would only take a can of coke, said he user to be a 'bad boy' but was now a reformed character, was too scared to ask why he had the breaker in boot and I'm sure he did tell me why but cannot remember.
 

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Aviva Research Highlights Lithium Battery Fire Risk Across Business Sector
"In a survey of 501 UK businesses, 54% of respondents had experienced an incident, with 36% reporting they had experienced a lithium-ion battery overheating. One in five businesses (19%) had experienced a device or battery sparking and 17% had experienced smoking. Alarmingly, around one in eight respondents had experienced fires (13%) or explosions (12%) in the workplace."
 
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Just over half of businesses who had experienced an incident avoid overcharging (52%), use genuine compatible chargers (51%) or follow manufacturer guidelines when disposing of used or damaged lithium-ion batteries (56%).
What kind of business are these? 44% do not dispose Li batteries properly and admit it openly in a survey!
 
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