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Totally agree I have never had a chain fail either, Both hub and mid-motor have their plus points depending on what you want from them, I own 1 of each and they are both excellent in their respective ways, I suggest you try and get a test ride( not easy I know) and speak to people who have...

Obviously you are not very adept at research as if you had only looked on this forum you would have found plenty of information on their faults.

This has been pointed out numerous times on this forum about the cut outs with the hub driven Carrera Crossfire it has been going on for years, search Carrera Crossfire on this forum it's not difficult.

I think you will find that more people have been caught out by the Carrera Crossfire (of which I have had experience of having owned one)and it's problems percentage wise (sales)over Bosch looking at the posts on this forum, Where as my experiences of owning a Wisper, Juicy and Carrera Crossfuse...

Not at all, but if you have no experience of them apart from what you have read online which may or not be a true reflection, why not leave it to the people on the forum who have had experience of them, as for the many dis-satisfied owners there appears to be just as many who have problems with...

I totally agree with you, but hijacking every thread that mentions Bosch and launching into a tirade of abuse about them when he has had no experience of owning one is counter productive for people looking for balanced advice on various motors and systems.

Have you ever owned a bike with a Bosch motor?

Got mine from Tredz 136 links Shimano ebike chain.

Why make a legal bike illegal?

I have just replaced mine with a Shimano ebike chain, yours is 2 links too short it is meant to be 118.

Well spotted.

Why don't you get in touch with Wisper? their after sales are very good.

Agree with the above, my Activeline plus was making the same noise and it was a very slightly loose bolt as stated, bit of a tighten and cured.

You get used to it, any chance he gets to give his sermon on his hatred of mid-motor bikes he does regardless of the topic. I am sure you will have a great time with your new bike, a friend of mine is a dealer for them and he has had no trouble with them. Enjoy.

What a stupid analogy ,Of course it would be ok to get a motorcycle that went 200mph , just illegal when you went over the speed limit, just like a ebike with assist over 15.5 mph.

I reckon it is for him in his ivory tower, if its not de-restrictions to moan about its Bosch motors, always the same bleating.

Yawn..........

Mind your halo don't slip.

Your right it probably is better, but I got mine last year for £1,100 with discounts.

Personally I would buy a bike I could take back if I had any problems, I have a Wisper 905se which I bought in Stoke, a Carrera Crossfuse I bought from a local Halfords and have had a Juicy Sport Click which I bought from Disley all good bikes and all within a 1 hour journey, having said that I...