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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Reasonable self awareness skills then OG. Cant be all bad.. I suppose. Tom Fair point but voting in or out is not a measure of a persons racist tendencies. Most racist person I know voted stay. You simply cant generalise. People,s reasons for supporting brexit, even if misplaced, are many and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And every fecker elses.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well at least you 4or 5 remainers have managed to reply to my reply without resorting to insult. OG You insist in quoting things posters did not say. You read a post and literally make things up ! Not repeating myself...just go back to post 100 replies ago.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Kudos We both know much of that is entire speculation, at best. UK is a net importer. Germany will be clamouring to keep certification equal. All outside EU manufacturers have no problems meeting eu standards. I don't think anyone is qualified to say what young adults want, most I know want...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ???? Yep. You are right...its Control Technique..hardly think I,d make that mistake if I lived there ? Been on a few diving trips and a school trip to St Mare Eglise about 50 years ago.. Dive club has a trailer which had to be matriculated for French trip and had we left it there registered and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Because like most rulings in eu, individual countries can ignore ( or even alter) rulings/ directives. Some respects this is good but WTF is point of paying all those MEP,s , civil servants in Brussels for countries to then pick and chose what they want..There is precious little standardisation...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That was case until 2009, after which we were supposed to drop dual labelling. We didn't and as yet no convictions. ( apart from on mentioned exemptions, which are still exempt) But a quick trip to Spain/ Portugal and you,ll see our ignoring this directive is quite insignificant..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not quite right Flecc. Under EU directive 80/181/ EEC we were allowed ( thanks) to display any products we wished in any units we wished as long as none we larger than SI units. That was until 2009 , from which date same directive said we must sell in SI units. The earlier 1980 directive was...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    . Afraid that's way out of EU,s remit. They have more urgent issues, destroying imperialism..( well imperial units anyway)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Tom I,m absolutely sure the general ebiker is way better mannered than yourself. It wouldn't be difficult and its to be hoped so. You,ve called me a bigot on absolutely no evidence, you,ve labelled millions of people idiots, you,ve called conservative voters scum all with absolutely no...
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    The FI 2016 world champion.....

    I could easily see Hamilton at Ferrari for all reasons mentioned. He,s a shrewd operator and knew exactly when to leave McLaren. Hamilton could never publicly say its been beyond bad luck...but I think it has been. Hamilton would beat any current driver in equal cars...so surely Merc ,if put...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Tom A bigot. A person intolerant to the views of others. Interpret this post however you wish. But which part of any of my posts was intolerant ??? For fecks sake Tom just stop. And your comment to Homer " your input is welcome" speaks volumes. You,ve taken ownership . This place is...
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    The FI 2016 world champion.....

    I didn't like saying that d8veh..thought Tom might burst.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I know I,m a newbie on here and wont be staying long( thanks to those that helped on dvp thread) but really do think this thread, its attitude, atmosphere it creates, arguments and insults it leads to are undermining any positive attitudes towards ebikes. If I buy one will fellow bikers harang...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Completely uterly fecking bonkers.Nice with it in your own way but crazy. Derf I.m not ambivalent towards Hitler. You are making assumptions again, but hey I,m getting the hang of it on here. You read a post and interpret it how you see fit. Not adding anymore on this thread. Its going...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG You are mad.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No Derf you are making assumptions. I am no Hitler apologist. I said he had worked wonders, I didn't say how terrible his methods were. You are doing exactly what er should not do. We accuse people of being racist for mere misuse of terms , whilst in the mean time the real racists are left...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Gratutitous attacks ? Are you on drugs or something ? Where is my gratuitous attack? This really is a strange place. Dont want to tar everyone with same brush but the point I made about this being thread for loonies certainly applies with you OG..what on earth have I said to initiate that...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Fair point derf. I have no issue with Tom at all, but to be called a bigot and him not be able to say why is ( IMO) inexplicable. I know I,m not a bigot and if something I,ve posted sounds bigoted please point it out. I,d either delete it and apologise or explain exactly what was meant. Perhaps...
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    The FI 2016 world champion.....

    There was a rumour circulating Red Bull would be supporting Rosberg over Hamilton probably in an effort to exploit folks eagerness to find racism. ( Head of Red Bull is Austrian and friends with Rosberg family. ) Red Bull seemed unable to offer viable opposition and had Daily Mail recounted this...