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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ps India alone has potential to replace any lost trade with eu. India in 10 years will have double the population of eu !. Their economy is growing , the eu is stagnant and has been for 10 years. I cant believe this insistence that eu is so good for uk trade, when our trade deficit with eu is so...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Absolute utter nonsense...every single word. At start of WW2 the doom merchants said within a month of bombing civil order would break down, it didn't in 5 years of it. They said for every ton of bombs dropped 50 people would die, it was actually around a tenth of that. When we came out if ERM...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Tom does daily, I,m sure with a bit of effort you could. Difference is the BS you post suits your ridiculous stand.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Canary (direct copied quote..) "Private Eye commented it was a "pisspoor Corbynite clickbait factory".[4][5] The style of literature in Canary is offensive , bordering on aggressive. Its terrible media. Its ironic that Tom thinks rest of country is brainwashed when he reads this garbage...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep we don't sell that much now, you are correct, so what's your point ??" If we don't export much...that doesn't take much replacing. If we do sell a lot to eu, as Woosh says, those sales can be replaced. The world is a big place OG and as far as trade is concerned its getting bigger and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Doubling exports to China and increasing those to USA by 33% are realistic targets which would almost replace lost trade. Turkey is looking likely to greatly increase trade( the BAE deal is felt by some to be only a start) India, Pakistan and South America's have potential to eventually bit...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's fine OG, if you cant accept reality a great big dose of denial works wonders...Just pretend Blair is not involved. And BTW Tom did say he,d change allegiance rather than follow Blair.. Blair is looking for helpers, you could volunteer and use all your posts as evidence of your loyalty to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But your buddy was showing symptoms a couple of days ago, he,s contemplating jumping ship if Blair takes the helm. Wonder what you,d be saying to us if we had Sadam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden championing leave, and don't tell me they are both dead because neither are any more dead than Blair's...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Whilst driving today listening to Tony Blair quotes made me almost laugh out loud, it wasn't what he said but thinking how close to bursting Tom would be trying to deal with all the hypocrisy and trying to find some reconciliation in remainers minds, combine that with OG,s extra detention in co...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Totally agree, but who has contributed 2nd most to disappearance of Labour? Blair..seems rather coincidental he resurfaces now and gets coverage he did ? He,s reuniting country, perhaps unintentionally but perhaps not ? The moment his speech was televised number of leavers jumped.. Nice one...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wonder how many leavers Blair has now created ? Even Tom is thinking about changing his stance, emphasing his right and ability to do a swift *U" when called for....get full lock and that handbrake applied OG, you,ll soon be swinging, mindst, you,ve been doing that in co op window for a while...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Robdon disagrees with Google. Brilliant OG. The Vauxhall /Opel situation is complicated by owners. GM have owned both since 1931, both American owned. Just like Ford. I believe GM bought Vauxhall before they acquired Opel. ( mid 20's)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Googled " Right thinking" Reply " Right minded" Google knows nowt.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think you would be right but it could be too late. As we are at moment May is pretty much assured of power even if leave proves to be damaging. I suspect she thinks (or the government thinks) they can ride out the storm of short term difficulties after leave, hoping things will pick up by time...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Probably but I don't drive about in a car powered by Duracell, which means you must be I suppose.. Or are you saying you,d rather stay with Blair back in charge ??? Kudos We are getting rather pedantic now, right minded or right thinking ?? But which would you choose? Stay with Blair or leave...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You either agree with Blair's current ramblings or you don't..Personally think he is simply taking opportunity to fill the void left by no credible opposition or he,s even more scheming and secretly wants to leave. I don't care either way because in past he,s proved himself a liar and totally...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It doesn't actually say on bus to spend the £350kk on nhs, but agreed its there for folk to make the connection. You defending Blair now ? Be careful ,if he snuffs a chance of regaining power he,ll be back..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Do you think Blair is thinking that way? I think he knows his political career ( in UK) is finished but he,s not called Teflon Tony for nothing..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I,m wrong about Tony Blair OG ? Or that he is championing remain ??? Where is the lie in that ?? Just ask yourself why ? Either he sees profit and power in it ? Or He,s pushing support away from remain ? I suspect the latter...somebody is paying him and the BBC are biased enough to give him a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think you are wrong with that ( leavers frightened decision will be reversed) Firstly , I don't think it will be reversed. All these folk changing minds are either appeasement for pestering ( or is it festering) remainers..ie) folk say to polls one thing and in reality they think completely...