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That's not the point at all. I never said they had either. The fact is we have Zero hour contracts , knowing full well they are a terrible way to behave...and yet the EU is powerless to prevent them. Its left to our own Government. So stop saying EU has benefitted workers. It has not. They might...

Think we are cross purposes ...yes certain people have benefitted...but only because government have accepted rulings. You have not answered anything about erosion of conditions for those mentioned. Flecc offers a good explanation as to why we are almost a single party democracy, but fails to...

Fair point KTM , but do you think they would have been accepted had our Government not wanted them ? Just look into Fire Sevice changes of contract working conditions and its hardly been reported. All done whilst in EU... If any government does not want to utilise any EU directives they simply...

I see your point Flecc but Labour certainly does not help itself keeping Corbyn in charge.. I also think you underestimate the effect Blair had on many Labour voters.

I agree a chance OG but tell me one group of workers who are actually better off as a direct consequence of EU, like you keep reminding us EU can not, does not enforce its directives and individual countries seen totally at free will to ignore it adopt anything they see fit. Take for example...

Might not appear so but I actually agree with nearly all the anti Tory sentiment and points raised but since this thread is about Brexit and in theory facts can somebody please explain how on earth country is any better off in EU but still with the Tories. And yet again Corbyn makes his...

I,m sure my wife will take great solice from the article during her extra 6 years working life as will my son in law who was originally told he could retire after 25 years service but now he must carry on donning breathing apparatus,enter burning buildings into his 60's, assuming he,s capable of...

Just explain to me your optimism over EU having any affect what so ever when we have seen teachers conditions of service worsen with much higher work loads, longer working hours and a relative cut in pay to point where they are contemplating strike action. ( got to be bad when NUT back that)...

No I did not. I said they were powerless to stop worsening conditions and probably didn't want to. Its you that cant see they real problem , which is ...no alternative to Tories...abd then ask why.. Because Blair lied about WMD, killed thousands of people, started a conflict that wont end in our...

OG Are you saying Brexit or our Tort government will lead to further exploitation of our workforce ? Or perhaps the combination ?? I ask because if you are attributing our leaving EU then where were the safeguards to stop raising of retirement age, worsening working conditions for teachers...

The French vote was still a protest vote. Don't understand mechanism of French elections, yes its different to ours...but imagine Clegg and Farage going through to final two...thats about the gist of it. Macron now has to find his party leaders...which is the bit I don't follow. Does he form a...

Maakes ne smile how OG and a few others assume other people are taken in by the media but never ever themselves. OG assumes all Brexit supporters are so because of right wing press. Those same people apply same standards to EU, everything positive is seen as EU's responsibility and everything...

Like the way OG now quotes Hargreaves when he says something he agrees with. When Hargreaves was, and still is BTW, saying financially we are better out he was ridiculed.

OG/ Wicky Seems irony is totally lost on you two. If you cant see it in the fact that girls selling themselves at sides of new roads ,paid for by EU, are made to wear hi viz jackets for their safety. Actually its way beyond irony its absolutely ridiculous. What has EU done for region ? Wiped our...

"EN471 Class 2 – Intermediate visibility level is required for any person working on or near A and B class roads. Garments intended for users who need greater visibility in poor weather conditions and whose activities occur near roadways where traffic speeds exceed 25 mph." The French ladies...

Too right they fixed the damn things..with nice brand new roads with our money...why didn't they renew ours or at least roads that were actually used. In Northern Spain there is a lovely little village called Lorent de la Muga..population around 3000..Veen going there for nearly 40 years now...

A swimming pool we couldn't use...just like the EU paid for roads in Northern Spain...that nobody uses...just like EU many go nowhere..

Wonder if Junkers speeches will make more sense when he makes them.in French..Think his statement sums up his petty attitude.Like anybody cares what language that thieving toad speaks in.

Looks real polluted where he,s tryng it...???

Air is polluted enough without having a polution mask.