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Yes, I agree totally..and no I do not think the general public are any more or less enlightened than you or I, but neither of us will be voting Labour ( I think, manifesto might hold out some hope) and neither of us are influenced by right wing press. It can only ever be an opinion has to why...

No he was a left wing politician with right wing policies. He got into power under and through the labour movement. I believe the term was Tory light. ( or is it Lite with his American counterparts) But whichever way you call it his legacy had ruined labour..( or started decline)

Except you I presume...you are more enlightened than public...but still wont be voting for Corbyn...for different reasons..ahemm...ofcourse.

So you,re not voting Labour because of Blair, which I said was case for many voters about 30 pages back...and in other words you,re not voting labour has nothing at all to do with right wing press, again something I said was case for many pages and ages ago. You and I are perfect examples of why...

And where's the problem in that ? Seems strange you arguing against this post when I,m saying I,d sooner ys be in Europe with Labour than out with Tories...but then again you,d argue against my post if I said night follows day..

OG I recall you saying you would vote lib Dem, I,d guess in past you were a labour voter ? If so, what's your reasoning behind not supporting Corbyn ? Have you been indoctrinated by right wing press??

And what if as Peter Hargreaves suggests we have a 10% increase ??? But that is too optimistic no doubt..

I don't see it that way at all Flecc in regards to Corbyns popularity . His position is self inflicted, from his regard of Diane Abbot ( in both senses) to his stance on Trident,Nuclear power and defence. Even his insistence on being filmed leaving his (ex) council house. Its fine been a man of...

They would not havee to alter all way to Blair. Any parties first priority must be to get elected, without power all the ideal policies are worthless. The fact Corbyn gains so little support simply shows his policies/ statements are not what country want. All labour governments have had to...

But to put hopes into EU as saviours of socialism is equally unrealistic. I do think a change in labour policies would be a step in right direction.

Good post. My feeling is a change if government to a more socially minded one is more a priority than staying or leaving EU. Our current Tory's can do as they please with scant regard to challenge from opposition. That's doing the damage. A strong Labour would hold government in check far than...

Our own feelings re wether 60 year olds should be running unto burning buildings are irrelevant, it was thought for many years too old...but just to explain what our govt do to workers. Was put forward retirement age would be put up to 60..FBU immediately put in objections....Govt agreed...

Was already broken by Tories, just thhat folk are blaming Brexit.

Yes, I agree they cant and don't help. So what was going to happen under this Tory government even if we stayed...penny dropped. It makes no difference.They would implement whatever they wished, adopt the EU legislation that suited them and ignore the rest. Like I said about 7 weeks ago. The big...

Are you actually reading my posts ? Ofcourse,I,m not blaming EU for Thatcher. Thatcher proved how ineffectual EU actually is. ( as has Blair, Cameron and now May) Zero hours contracts on your wages are rather different to Zero hours on minimum ..If I don't deliver a boat I wont be paid...thats...

Yes, exactly and Thatcher was appointed PM 7 years after we joined EU. The EU stopped nothing, my area was devastated..not a single EU directive seen. And I worked in a mining village from 79 to 90 and witnessed first hand kids almost starving, police from London on treble wages assaulting...

I think FBU should get somebody off here to negotiate with government, they could quote all these meaninglesss directives.. This isa comment from FBU We regard the transitional arrangements, which force younger firefighters into having to work on to age 60 are totally unrealistic. We will...

So where does Spain stand on bull fighting ? Or UK on worsening working conditions for workers..abd if there is no problem with Zero hour contracts how come 9 ( caring?) EU countries have banned them.. Or in other words EU does not have legislation to prevent worse conditions of service being...

No, I,m saying that if a member state so wishes it can,and does, ignore whatever it likes.Once that is the case the responsibility is with the country.( I,m not passing judgement either way, its simply how it is) If a teacher walked in a class and said follow these rules if you wish, behave when...

KTM You just don't understand the point.. I,ll try again. This is the EU " policy" on Animal Welfare/ Cruelty. Animal welfare With the support and close co-operation of the Member States, the European Commission has been promoting animal welfare for over 40 years gradually...