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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ERG will support her to stay in power. DUP have been bought once and are leavers. If DUP strike a deal with Corbyn it could bring May down. My bet is still May doesnt get her deal and then a second ref. But we are all crystal ball gazing... Off to SA today... So BFN.. Hope its all sorted for my...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Only if May gets deal through.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not quite OG.. Blair was Labour no matter how much labour movement tries to disown him... He still has his supporters and his actions fostered our current loony left brigade running labour at moment. Its a sort of balancing out, but problem being neither end are electable. Dismissing Blair/New...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Was a Labour government that took us to war, completely ignoring public will at the time. Was a labour leader that lied to entire world to justify an illegal war. As to why subsequent governments didnt support a full enquiry I have no idea. I do find it rather suspicious we are all reminded of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://mol.im/a/6585263 Rather a timely reminder about our last labour government. Kelly didnt commit suicide but timing of this is rather suspicious too. We are still reaping rewards of devastation Blair did to country and especially labour party. We are in crazy situation now where if May...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He, s had the potion. Morphing back to Tom...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And you have your normal blinkers and rose coloured specs. Yes, perhaps problems are not insurnountable but just claiming "Germany has learnt its lessin" and "does not have a migrant crisis" is burying your head in the sand upto your arse.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Lets hope the legislation keeps them both happy.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Do you make this up or read it somewhere flecc. Germany has a colosal migrant crisis. All Germans I have met have all moaned, not about the immigrants themselves but the loss of identity within Germany. A group I met in Italy last year actually said there was no point going back to Berlin... Its...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Its not going to happen though Tommie.??? My bet would now be May's deal to collapse... And then ref 2?? (With remain or no deal as options) JC will ask for a GE but it wont get called. Assuming that is we can extend Art 50 long enough to arrange ref2... Which EU will grab with both greedy...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I saw it. Was very good. Snow getting a convincing argument back from an 18 year old. Was quite funny, seemed to me it was him trying to incite offensive comments from leavers and derogatory ones from remainers. He did come over biased and made him look stupid. (I accept he isnt but he was glad...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So what...Like I said try it Flecc.. Surprised you support it, there wouldnt be a thread if more did it. Perhaps you should try thinking things through, I suppose you tried.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep, more should do it.. All the remainers...?? Start with you flecc...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Robdonitus..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1069641/brexit-news-latest-no-deal-france-eu-economy-today-amendment-theresa-may-john-bercow-uk https://www.ft.com/content/e183b28a-1337-11e9-a581-4ff78404524e...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ??? Still replies even when he has me on ignore.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why are you spouting your rubbish again. You are believing the EU propoganda. And I didnt say anything about 7% loss being catostrophic. You did. For starters it could be way more than 7%,nobody knows, because any increases in German goods would be in our hands. All Eurpopean manufacturers are...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And that is before a no deal, which could have catostrophic effects on German industry. Also factor in the rise of further right wing elements attracting more popularity with leave EU in their policy. The EU has for a while now done a great jib of putting over a calm and stable environment...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    "Why they did so" You havent got a clue. Absolute speculation, generalisation and then compartmantalise. Then wrong conclusion. Stop playing psychologist. Yes, explain background and history. I, ll bet half voters havent a clue what happened in 70s and others dont care.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree in principle Woosh but she has used language inappropriate to both her position and the situation. It needs to stop before it turns worse.She should know better. She didnt.