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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed, most of my posts are Polly.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep, the CI levels are wide and low... The general picture even when viewed cynically is very positive tho.. Its better than it could have been and was initially thought after initial trials. Seems to me AZ were rather pessimistic by including positive cases found before the vaccine stood any...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes, I do agree. I do think they are trying to display the data in as good light as possible. That could be seen as a favour for government but suspect its much more likely to be to reduce vaccine hesitancy and in turn boost their own share values.. But it's a capitalist world. I want...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Like I said Polly, I agree, it's not much fun at all. Any of it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I wondered if it was a 67% drop and then a further 50% drop after 2nd dose. (ie a total drop of around 84%) Seems odd transmission goes up after 2nd dose? Doesn't make it clear. It would be possible to get two 50% drops. It's halved... Twice... 75% drop in total. Depends whether you are judging...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If nobody was hospitalised in data it means 100% protection from hospitalisation. They can't quote differently to that shown in data.??? But glad you find it amusing.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is that a further 50% for 2nd dose or does it drop?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's not great is it. Rather a pain.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps you should tell OG it won't fail.???And in which case criticism of delay is rather futile and misplaced. But you encourage OG even though you see vaccine roll out as a success??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2021/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-confirms-protection-against-severe-disease-hospitalisation-and-death-in-the-primary-analysis-of-phase-iii-trials.html Recent analysis of AZ...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Totally agreed. Well said. Please put me on ignore OG. I, ve put you on it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You did nothing of the kind. You called myself, JHC and Susan Tory fan boys. Read my last post again. There isn't a single insult. But for what it's worth now. You are behaving like a fool. And not a word about how Tories benefit from a failed vaccine roll out. And you should have realised by...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Don't encourage him for goodness sake Flecc. And the reduction in death rates in over 80's? When we don't get another wave post opening country? When kids, hospitals, etc are all open with no rise in cases will be down to luck, lockdown or weather? But obviously not the vaccine. I agree, we...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Og This was number at end of yesterday. They seem to be having few problems with supply. As they say proof of the pudding etc. In fact according to all sources supply will be increasing as the new vaccines become available. You continually search for negatives, ignore what's actually...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Think if you did homework rather than prejudge you wouldn't make silly comments. AZ are supplying 2 million per week and expect that to rise. Much of our supply is being made in UK. (new factories in Scotland and Stockton on Tees) All involved see no reason, because of early agreements on...
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    We will all get banned.

    Totally agreed. I forwarded the video to Surron who to their credit did reply. They accepted it was not how the bikes should be used and that they were on the wrong bikes. But went on to say use of bikes off road was a grey area. I disputed that. Off road motor bikes are illegal on any land...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We have ended up either by luck or design in a very good position. I suspect our govt backed lots of companies suspecting at best only half would deliver. (ie work) Turns out all those backed did in fact pass final trials. So procurement looks like below. Suspect EU and specifically France's...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Especially so with 3 million doses sat in storage in Berlin. They aren't doing themselves any favours. Bet Boris will come to rescue of our favourite common wealth country.??? Argument is over a mere 250k doses... Not enough to change any body's strategy but enough to do political harm.??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Danidl You questioned my data about Germany having 4 million doses of AZ and had only used 200,000 of them. Reporter in Berlin has just interviewed German Physician at vaccine centre. He said "We have 3 million doses of AZ vaccine here in Berlin and have used a few hundred thousand ". (Chanel 4...
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    Astra Zenaca Jab.

    Totally agreed.(but don't tell Flecc) https://english.elpais.com/society/2021-03-04/the-best-coronavirus-vaccine-is-the-one-that-reaches-my-arm-first.html https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1405716/keir-starmer-news-poll-boris-johnson-ahead-yougov-labour-party-conservative-party-covid...