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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes of course Danidl, this chap knows nothing, he, s under political influence and obviously wrong.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your link actually shows you commented first. ie saying folk mentioned are subject to political influence??? So such as you and whoever are somehow in a better position than CW, JVT, PV etc to give independent assessment. Absolute rubbish but your link proves you brought them into it. There are...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It has not been chaotic in the slightest. It's been well organised and effective, especially so in comparison to the EU, whose vaccine roll out has been utterly shambolic. But you are right, what PV said months ago has nothing to do at all with vaccine rollout, so why did you bring it up.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This comment had to be made the following evening of the radio 4 programme because so many were taking what he said totally out of context. Herd Immunity isn't, wasn't and never was a goal during initial stages of pandemic. With the vaccine it might become so.. PV explained the situation in the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No he didn't. He said it was a consequence... Not a goal. And like I said before it's got nothing to do with vaccine roll out. Besides, last week you were agreeing with sound wave and saying all deaths are exaggerated and infection is nothing to worry about. Make your mind up flecc. Simple...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Originally it was the flat cap test...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What's that got to do with vaccine roll out? And going over old ground again. He does not say herd Immunity was a policy or goal. He says it's a consequence of large numbers getting disease. He says he wants to flatten and broaden the peak... That is not letting infection run riot going for...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your logic. But get your point.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's where we differ tho flecc. I don't see any party politics or collaboration from Chris Witty/JVT or Patrick Valance. (or JCVI/PHE/NHS) Think they, d be saying and doing same thing whoever was in power. I can't see any evidence at all to collaborate your view. I suspect questioning their...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    it's not so much what they know more than us, it's more a case of what they choose to tell (and not to tell) the public. At least we are not partisan on covid. Agreed. They should have been more transparent with decision about delay. We thought we were trading 30% or so by delaying jab. In...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The extra 2% protection (according to Canadian interpretation of Israeli data) to afford 90% protection for other at risk groups. Sounds like a beneficial trade off to me. But we have same situation, where a poster on a pedelec forum has more insight into both the initial trial data and now the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sounding like Agnew now..?? Don't think the Tory distinction has any relevance. JH ain't a blue blood anyways.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Talking sh!te again.. (no offence OG, couldn't resist it)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG, what do you want me to say? The new data is all wrong, the delay between doses ruins the effect of vaccine, the Pfizer must be stored at minus 30 degrees (or whatever)? I could easily agree with you, then we, d both be wrong. The fact is latest data suggests AZ vaccine has shown (has shown)...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I know OG, I was being flippent. Water purification over years has probably accounted for more saved lives than any other single development. You are being a bit cynical beyond your engineering prowess tho OG. You might use a valve or tap that you tested to 10 bar... Some user says hang on a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/19/german-politicians-counter-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-scepticism-with-show-of-support Vaccine negativity in Germany has led to 17% take up..!!???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Usage in field often throws up benefits manufacturers don't recommend. During war RR insisted high boost and low fuel would destroy Merlin engine. American pilots realised doing exactly that could extend range massively.. Engines coped. Rev limits on engines in racing oftwn go way beyond...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/19/one-pfizerbiontech-shot-gives-85-covid-protection-study Suggests in here when Pfizer first did study the efficy rate at 6 weeks (54%) included all those who caught disease prior to 14 days. If those are discounted efficy in week 6 is 92%. Apparently...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A bit cynical OG?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/19/talking-astrazenecas-success-eu-has-sacrificed-lives-integrity/ A normal sort of opinion from the Telegraph...