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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Things are very strange in Europe. We are still in a mess but think we are more settled than France /Spain. Had one mate who has just sold up (Moraira). House valued 5 years ago circa £700k...sold for £250k. Bought a big van, drove home. Got back 2 days ago. Says its utter fiasco down there. Got...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So you wanted Jo Swinson in no 10? Of course not. Now that would have been brilliant during pandemic. Choice was Tories or Corbyn. Swinson was a wasted vote, a cop out, so that at a later date you couldn't be labelled a Tory fan boy or a Marxist. You stood on the sidelines. As a kid we called...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Stony ground JHC. Preaching to some is futile.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes, agreed, a point of view shared by most of Europe. Spanish and French friends are raving about our roll out and extremely scathing of their own and the part EU has played in it. And, as I said in post. I wasn't making any points, or reinforcing ones already made, it was posted as a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wonder if timing is rather good. Sturgeon's popularity correlates fairly directly with that for independence. Both suffered at opinion polls???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.france24.com/es/europa/20210207-c%C3%B3mo-la-vacunaci%C3%B3n-contra-el-covid-19-en-la-ue-se-convirti%C3%B3-en-la-mejor-publicidad-para-el-brexit I think the UK/EU vaccine roll out has had a more profound effect on attitudes abroad than home. Had above article sent from a friend a few...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your response simply highlights the ambiguity and stupidity of the EU system. Its like saying the governor of New York state has nothing to do with USA. Macron is most important person in 2nd largest Economy within EU but you insist he has nothing to do with EU. Beggers belief you do not see the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But the delays are self inflicted by EU, their contracts were late and poorly written. (I posted FT summary about them a few weeks ago) It was an area UK got right. Much tighter contracts, more penalties for delay and initiated 3 months earlier. Besides, supply is not only problem. Berlin MVC...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think that's agreeing with her Woosh. She said similar. But her premise about roll out completion is correct. Time between jabs does not affect total time. OG is confused again and thinks it does. But, I agree. I do think the delay will be reduced. Logistics and data dependant.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Cause confusion to whom? We all know exactly what we should and shouldn't be doing. 20 million have been so confused to roll up for their jabs. My medication still arrives on the dot every month. I am confused is one of those get out of gaol big lies. Sorry officer I was confused about the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Quasi effective
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sorted in a court in a few months, years time. It should have been sorted when making contracts,3 months before it was. You can't be speaking with your friends in France. The ones I know down in Perpignan are horrified with what has happened. Ex pats and locals alike. A 72 year old friend of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/explainers-52380823 Danidl, think you should read this. You seem rather confused over EU vaccine roll out. It's rubbish. Then have a study of this. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries UK infections and deaths have been and are terrible. Spain...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is rubbish.. Which are you saying would take less time? 3 weeks delay or 12 weeks..?? And you are now saying 2 weeks difference, you originally said 2 months?? Just stop and think OG... Work out the time to get through 90 million jabs at 2 million a week.. Try it... See if delay changes...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-data-show-vaccines-reduce-severe-covid-19-in-older-adults Some more bad news for OG and Flecc.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG the day you can teach me anything will be a sad sad day. It ain't going to happen. Carry on your crusade in here against everything. Fine. You aren't converting or convincing anybody,much as you keep trying. Your efforts are futile. BTW OG, I, ll ask question Susan asked. If you think roll...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The blurb also states (under limitations) that the 80 plus group were the only group (at the time) universally offered vaccination. (with 90% plus take up) Other age groups only included groups at much higher risk and hence likely to show worse outcome than general population. The final figure...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The 42day plus figure for 80 plus Yr olds is 80%.(a combined figure) according to this table. In other words at 42 days plus (for 80 plus Yr olds) single dose reduces hospitalisation by 80%.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There are few people who could think calling someone a lackey is not an insult. But seen as you do, why are you being flecc's lackey.. Oh, yes of course, both of you utterly brainwashed against UK. Susan was spot on in her arguments with you. You did say current roll out would save 2 months and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But as Susan pointed out protection against hospitalisation /death is completely different to protection from infection. (as far as figures are concerned). Posters seem incapable of differentiating between the 2.(well some seem so to justify their negative comments)...