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Guerney Just been watching video about slow jogging. Would have to be a very strange pedelec for rider to not be able to exert that level of exercise. You mention somewhere about jogging being able to push out put level up above that on pedelec. The whole point of pedelec is to be able to exert...

Amazing how differently the Select committee's report can be so differently interpreted. BBC used it to attack Government, Mail used it to defend ministers and attack Valance, Witty, Sage and especially Fergusson. Danidl refuses to read it on principal and OG has found a bit saying Boris...

Whereas you know more than folk writing report.. Yes, of course you do OG. Read it all OG... But then again you don't need to do you. You make the thread utterly pointless. Just ignore anything presented to you, regardless of its authenticity. Just your own ridiculous conclusions based in bias...

Wasn't me making the points... Was the report. They should have selected you for it. Shame they didn't. Can only happen on here. Some bloke with an interest in pedelec knows more about the situation than a cross party select committee put together to investigate and report on Covid handling by...

Whichever way you look at it the UK vaccine response has been a bright light in a sea of flickering candles. In many ways its covered up what was a poor response in other areas. (read the section in T and T and Cobra) It became evident to all that on high levels of infection our Tand T simply...

But basically, the bit you see as spin. They should have consulted yourself and OG.. Writers of report know nothing at side of yourself and OG, and they are obviously living in cloud cuckoo land. If you can't find report I, ll post a link.. I, ve spent about 5 hours reading it... You two know...

But before you write report off as spin, I suggest you read it Danidl. This is a few extracts on vaccines.

Yep, the report is suspect. Tell OG..Have you read the spin report or watched last night's report about the "report". The one with major contributions from Dominic Cummings.. That font of all things precise and factual... Well apart from his eye test drive. I agree, the report isn't worth the...

Yes, of course the report was wrong, obviously. The vaccine development and roll out was crap. But the bits where critical were correct no doubt. Unbleuevable OG... But keep it up. You are like my 5 Yr old grandson... He makes himself sad and angry thinking entire world, especially his mum, is...

The report that also highlighted UK's World leading vaccine development and roll out. But miss that bit out, its too positive. Just concentrate on all the bad bits as BBC, /media has programmed you to. And, if you took trouble to actually read report, or listen properly yesterday evening... The...

Well at least while you are insulting BJ you are leaving everybody else alone. You are just like many football supporters. Always know better than manager, insult him continually, bay for his sacking and then when he, s gone... Nobody to replace him. Yep, by all means have a contract taken out...

You might be right Jonathon. Thing is, even if so, exactly what are you doing about the impending doom. Voting for Starmer? Becoming a prepper, sitting on m5, revolting or even starting a movement/party. Think I, ll stay in denial until I can actually do something. You can't even vote for an...

https://www.politico.eu/article/accurate-prophecy-or-misleading-project-fear-how-referendum-claims-have-panned-out-so-far/ Perhaps so Oyster, but the scenario as predicted by many has simply not materialised. Total exaggeration by both sides, from the bus to Project Fear... Ridiculous...

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-10/it-was-project-fear-and-it-didnt-work-head-of-remain-campaign-says-economic-dangers-of-brexit-were-exaggerated A bit long winded but very good explanation around why Remain message lost referendum. (It's a sort of half way house between Spectator trying to...

To quote you... Utter rot, and you know it. You complained about the wait, you complained about timing and you complained about delay for your second... There isn't anything I can think of you haven't complained about. I suppose the clue is in your handle... Old Groaner... You live up to it...

Or Tony B Liar... With his entourage.. What could go wrong?

I, m not complaining about it. You are. I, ve coped with covid, because of jab. Filled car up whenever I needed, eaten well. Had eyes sorted, had 2 heart ops, seen all 4 grand kids cope well over last 2 years. Only time I feel down is reading the rot in here. Yes, things aren't perfect, they...

It's not just suggestions we need tho is it Woosh. All the dissatisfied, disenfranchised and down trodden need to to formulate a plan, vote for somebody or something and do something. We, ve had 5 years now of anti Brexit, anti Tory, anti Boris with nothing but negativity about how bad both this...

But nobody, including all the shouters on here, does a damn thing about it. Just moan, moan, fecking moan. Nobody stands, offers alternatives or even suggest viable alternatives people or policies. Just continual bitching about Tories and or Boris and everything they have or haven't done. Not a...

To be fair he, s been on duty and faced more than any PM since ww2... If he, s that bad his absence isn't an issue is it? Most folk would have walked away months ago. Reckon he, s on track for a break down, listening to him with Marr I thought he was having one. And, yes I think KS is to Labour...