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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Could be Woosh but no matter how much blame is attributed to Brexit and by association to BJ until a party/mp has policy of rejoining I can't see that it would adversely affect him. They and us are all leavers now, wether we like it or not. Can't condemn BJ when rest would have done exactly...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Can't disagree with anything you say about him, but the really frightening aspect is he is most electable MP certainly within Tories and probably a cross all parties. I strongly suspect any PM until next GE is operating as Tory whipping boy. Come next GE Sunak, Hunt etc will be blamed for the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If it were a public vote for choosing Conservative leader he'd still be PM. Time will tell.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    67% of statistics are made up. Honest. On a serious note, remainers/rejoiners should be careful not to put blame for all our ills on Brexit. Just returned from Spain (Madrid) and folk certainly aren't happy with anything there either. (all well fed up with cost of fuel, food, transport, poor...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Because its too technical and taxing for her capabilities.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/jeremy-hunt-tory-leadership-boris-johnson-nhs-junior-doctors/ Can't quite understand why folk seem to think Hunt is any different.. He gives out a nice caring thoughtful demeanour. Reality is the opposite. Let's hope he does a better job as Chancellor than...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Fair comment. Seems our politics is rife with, if not illegal, but certainly self serving, actions. In scale of things perhaps his indiscretions are minor and he is probably a gifted enough politician for it to be of no detriment. We'll see. Let's hope so..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You leave it. Defending sleaze,which is for all intents and purposes exactly what brought Boris down. I never mentioned address you quoted. If I, ve got it wrong so has Guardian and both these...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Both are wrong, defending either is ridiculous. The sole objective for this so called charity is not to help anyone (in actual fact all details /studies by Patient Watch have been put on hold.... Because of Covid) it's to pay this chap an exorbitant wage (it's a brilliant wage for anyone, let...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Read the article Woosh. Bloke was paid £120k in the year charity started by Hunt raised £150k ish. If that doesn't raise alarm bells not sure what would. It stinks.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And that Hunt is showing all those Tory qualities we all value. Apparently some charity he set up has paid 60% (this report says 72%??)of all its donations to its chief executive who happens to be on Hunts payroll too. (or was) Hunt just happens to be one of the charities directors. (Patient...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oh, and BTW, you really think forward thinking Tory controllers would sanction a brown party leader to gain ratification at next GE. I doubt it. BJ is packaged away, told to go on holidays and await their call.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You missed the bit where I said "Sunak has to fail". Fair enough if he manages to succeed, he deserves the job for 3 terms let alone 3 weeks as Truss managed.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They won't have a choice. The PM candidate pot is empty. They over exhausted it with Truss. (Actually with May) Sunak has to fail. Come next GE party gate will be a distant memory and all they care about is holding onto power. Agreed, nobody on here would vote for BJ but suspect that has almost...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He'll be back, even if it takes a generation. It was thought his hero's (Churchill) political career was over after the Dardanelles (Crimea??) fiasco.. (admittedly, as much Churchill took public blame, he was exonerated years later with Kitchener put in breech). Churchill went to trenches in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    1922 won't forget Boris got an 80 plus seat majority. In final analysis there isn't much to lose. As they stand Tories are out (sort of) next GE...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is BJ is being held back to be allowed to stand (as Party leader) for next GE...??? I suspect so. He might not be built like a cat but politically he still has at least 6 lives left.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My car has auto handbrake. Few weeks ago, in a rush, pushed engine stop button, and started to jump out car. Usually, engine would stop, gear go to park and hand brake apply automatically... Normally.... I hadn't pushed engine stop button hard enough, engine had stopped but because of stop...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You are mixing popularity up with effectiveness /broken. Anyone who thinks Labour isnt boken hasn't really been watching or listening to what they have to say or who is saying it. Please explain their stance on any important issue. (take defence). Under Corbyn defence manifesto was an utter...