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Now the decision is made a common view is being observed that we are all brexiteers now, we should unify around our democratic vote and get on with. I am pleased that at least our government is firmly taking that view To do otherwise would inflict appalling demage to this country. I hope in time...

I see from today's reports that the euro trade commissioner has decided that the "no noze" look is quite fashionable this year So first we must leave, ie in 2 years and only negotiate the leave part, then we can start negotiation on trade deal, so we have to start with WTO rules Obviously a...

Exactly my experience too and as I said to OG I'm not sure what the answer is, but honestly I'm not sure that the current vision of an EU superstate is the answer, particularly as it seems so corrupt and self serving to the political elites and doesn't much care about its own citizens The...

I cannot believe the defeatist negative and frankly pathetic views being expressed now You lost a vote, not a war God help your businesses if this is how you face challenges GET OVER IT, what are you guys on Bloody hell Cameron and Osborne have got some responsibility here, they really scared...

Ditto at fairly senior level. It happens, it's what they glibly refer to as globalisation, but from my experience it does not have to result in win /lose but it does involve change and flexibility Synonymous with all sorts of crap I fear, but it really is the reality we are dealing with Have you...

Again Flecc sorry to say those are not the only reasons, just the ones the press focus on, But I accept most of the car manufactures position themselves in several locations in Europe, not to mention the world and will flex and adjust to changing dynamics but it is more complex and thought...

I don't want to seem condescending but this is quite a complex issue made up of many parts, it is not simplistically down to tariffs which is the worst that can happen, it has many more constituent parts and even varies by country circumstance above all strategic considerations, you cannot pick...

That is absolutely wicked ! But I have a sneaking idea it might be German propaganda

Clearly you new about battleships, and believe me I know what I am talking about! I don't doubt the Uk was a fantastic gateway, but also accept it hasn't just become a crap one, that is lack of knowledge and experience and listening to much to the lieing press as you would say

Eastern Europe is old news as far as manufacturing is concerned, most that went in are already out and in China, Vietnam Philippines, one strong exception is car manufacturing which is very bulky and expensive to ship across the world, so they talk about "near shore" but even Eastern Europe is...

Tell that to the japanese, many big multi national companies that sell over the world in local currencies. Now due to the relatively high yen their consolidated results in yen have taken a massive hit There stock market will be hit accordingly. They need a weaker currency not stronger, and they...

Unless the battleship is holed below the water line before you get there, and was distracted by something else and did not see you coming. I jest:cool:

Because at the moment you are seeing only from a negative perspective, For example take ex rates, what is the best ex rate for the uk? You will not get any answers or facts on that from even the best economists. It depends? At the moment on balance almost the whole world wants lower ex rates...

Presumably you know more about warships than me, but may I dare to say it is not just about the hardware!

Yes that is a possibility, but many commentators have countered that by saying this would be very damaging for them too, akin to cutting off your noze to spite your face. Still they might be stupid enough, or they might wake mup from their European dreams and take a pragmatic view I would add...

You have a point, but that is the nature of the Global market nowadays and frankly tariffs are only one consideration when deciding on locations to produce, not taken lightly. U.K. Is still a good place to do business And also remember ex rates we talked about earlier, this will wipe out any...

Sorry OG you mistake my "source" I am not quoting someone else's story,s Like you I have read widely as I can listened to as many people as I can and also based on my personal direct experience in my working life. The views expressed are my own, from my logic, reasoning and experience Not facts...

Conspiracy theory is a wrong description. It is the politics and circumstances that underpin the whole discussions, you cannot ignore it Change is on the way for Europe, partly prompted by the Brexit vote. This can be beneficial to the whole of Europe with a little imagination

Tariffs cuts both ways, and especially Germany sells a lot of cars to us and produces a lot of cars in the uk for export to europe I think you are underestimating our bargaining position and overestimating there's, which is the classic negotiating error Think about from there point of view, what...

H Hi Trex Apologies if I was not clear, I meant specifically to do with press, tv and internet