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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think one of the major problems about immigration is the fact that the British people were never given any say in it. It being decided by Blair and co, even admitting that they wanted to change the country. Any sensible debate or questioning was then stifled with people being labeled as...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG maybe it is but at least we have the option of voting them out. The British system is by no means perfect and we do indeed have a ruling class who look after themselves and their mates, and that is across all parties. But we do have some element of accountability. Not so with the EU which...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Was talking about communism. Maybe very similar in some ways. Everybody being ruled by a remote elite who keep all the good stuff for themselves
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    just know I don't want to live under it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    or a communist left wing labour party run by Jezza and his mates wanting to put the clock back to the stone age!!!!
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Of course whatever Osbourne threatens he has to have support from He is going to need the support of parliament to implement a new budget and it sounds like he won't get it. Still no mention of reducing foreign aid budget. Obviously prefers to target people who have worked all their lives.???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    if the uk votes to stay I personally will never vote again. I don't care who gets in. They will only be able to do the bidding of the eu
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    what a pile of garbage. They would do what they always do. Nothing ps not your post trex
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    According to Donald Tusk if the UK leaves it will be the end of political civilisation . That seems to be a big effect for an insignificant little place like the UK . Maybe he is exaggerating a little???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Flecc agreed, but at least we would have the ability to get rid of our own useless lot at the next election
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Worth it to be freed from being controlled by faceless failed politicians. Maybe we will be poorer for while but maybe we will get stronger. No one knows
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So basically you are saying that they will ignore the results and conspire to screw us over. Knowing how devious politicians can be I would say you are probably right. The only thing I would say to that is that they are supposed to be servants of the people. Not the other way round
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Derf nobody is talking about no immigrants,which is the argument constantly thrown at the leave side. It is being grossly misrepresented. Everybody knows the contribution made by immigrants in the health service and other industries. We don't need to be constantly reminded. What is being...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I suspect the reason that Dave never threatened cutting foreign aid was because it wouldn't frighten anyone, and after all that is what he is trying to do
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think it may backfire on him. He has proved to be a liar and has tried to bully the British people all through this referendum
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Notice he has threatened cuts to pensions, health service,defence etc but not said a word about foreign aid???. Just shows that he puts the interests of others above UK citizens
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    Woosh Big Bear Ls quick review

    I find on my Eagle that the middle power up to 12 mph suits me for most purposes.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If we leave the main problem will be the calibre of the people who are negotiating on our behalf. Unfortunately over recent years the standard of people running the country has not been impressive.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The problem is T-Rex that we have been fed so many lies and so much bs by the politicians and so called experts that nobody believes them anymore. And I don't just with regards to the referendum. I think they are starting to panic now because it seems to be swinging towards leave winning. So...
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    Juicy folder

    Thanks Bob for your input. NB has decided against buying. best regards gray