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But that doesn't necessarily beat the system. For example, during WW2 we could keep up to 12 chickens producing eggs for our own household's consumption. Any more then that, even just 13 chickens, and ALL of the eggs had to be handed to a packing station for addition to the national supply...

No, that doesn't make the pedelec illegal in practice. As Saneagle says, it doesn't qualify as an Off Road Switch. Altering in that way is the software equivalent of using tools to physically alter the machine. As I said in my long reply to Jimod, we need to accept some flexibility in the...

Not legal, since to be a pedelec exempt from motor vehicle law, there cannot be any assist power when pedalling stops. In this instance it is the usage law of the current EAPC regulation, which rules that it becomes a motor vehicle, namely an L1e-A moped. BUT: Take it througn the new 250 LPM...

Yes. Yes. In both cases it has Grandfather Rights. The rights it had back in 2015, whether taken advantage of or not then, remain indefinitely. .

Yes, because it is a pedelec construction provision of the exemption in Type Approval law, that only dealing with design and construction, not rider usage. No, since it is not a usage provision for the exemption. .

No it isn't legal, the exemption that permits a pedelec is very clear, the assist power must cease when pedalling stops. However, when looking at the detail of the law it can be important to cut some slack in respect of the DfT who make the law, the police and those who sell the pedelecs...

Will you please stop misleading people. You very obviously do not know the law on this subject and all the provisions that have been made. I do know that law so thoroughly that I've use it to correct a major police force and later overrule the DfT when they wrongly advised that force that...

They are permitted in the UK** because each one has been taken individually through Single Vehicle Approval as a sub class of L1e-A moped, named 250LPM. Therefore becoming a motor vehicle and no longer an assisted pedelec considered to be a bicycle in law. But as a concession the DfT, and by...

Renovating rubber boats for us to export. ;) .

Nor me. They can't be carried on any of TfL's London Bus or Underground services, but legal pedelecs only can be, outside of the rush hours. .

The part you aren't getting is that part where the population slaughter those in charge who go much too far. Haven't there been enough examples? .

No, the entire system runs on savings, especially those of the people who make the big decisions. .

They seem to have only been a very short lived early summer fad in my area, never in large numbers and I haven't seen any for weeks. They won't be happy in the spring if they try to get them going again and find the battery completely dead. .

I can see only too well that this has effectively already happened in the West very long ago. The last time we actually had money was when we held gold and silver. Since banknotes, base metal coinage and more recently credit and current account cards, we've only possessed those symbols, no...

Why do you two so often post videos of people who love the sound of their own voices so much that they take half an hour to say what could be said in five minutes? Surely you don't imagine members spend endless hours of their lives listening to such incoherent drivel? .

:D :D :D You just can't help yourself can you, any lengths to win an argument! First in my mention of the Shetlands in the furthest north UK sharing a parallel with Norway, you try to convince me how mild it is up there. Now you try to convince me that in a more southerly northern location...

Of course. Diplomatic Protection Officers all carry revolvers and the Foreign Embassies, Commissions and Legations are in London, plus the homes of many of their native senior officials. In consequence there are large numbers of revolver armed protection officers on duty 24 hours a day. The...

Agreed, ideally never charge below freezing point, but the point I am making is that one doesn't need to fret about this too much, especially in our climate, as your comment on the Shetlands shows. Most of us the UK rarely get any chance to charge below zero degrees, since even our sheds and...

That's a very loose interpretation of the the law which is incorrect. The law is quite clear, when pedalling stops, the power assistance must also stop. Exemption (h): Pedal cycles with pedal assistance which are equipped with an auxiliary electric motor having a maximum continuous rated...

Not in mainland Europe. The obsession with having throttles is a peculiarly British one, thanks to that 12 years when so many of our e-bikes had them in error. Elsewhere in the EU, what they didn't have they didn't miss. .