If its an ongoing review, then why not comment on things he has changed to make improvements or personalize to suit his requirements? Makes sense to me.
Review Woosh Rio MTB Review/Initial Impressions
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No issue with that at all, but having negative comments about something you have modfied is just ridiculous.
If you either remove the valve cores or force slime though the valve you have changed it from its original specification, your problem.
If you don't like the tyres as supplied for instance and you then change them for lets say Marathons then you can't complain that the bike as supplied doesn't like wet mud
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I would call it telling a story. Many people make modifications to bikes after they purchase, some work some dont....isnt it nice to hear that something you may have thought of doing doesnt work before you try something similar yourself?
Posts crossed, I totally agree, but that isn't clear. It reads more like a criticism of the tubes as supplied.
I thought it was quite helpful to know that if you squirt slime in yourself, there's a chance you might gunk up the valves a bit. Valves going 'dodgy' by the slime going through them rather than being faulty (which would be very unlucky if they were both the same) in the first place.
Gaz
Gaz
What Gaz said, the slime can make the valve sticky and work less effectively that before. I think there is a way of cleaning it up as this happens on motorbikes too. Is the dust cap on tight, as that can help?
Just to clarify, you don't force the slime through the valves. You remove the valve cores, inject the slime and then put the cores back in. I've ordered a bunch of cores since they're dirt cheap anyway and will see what happens. No need to get all upset over it, I wasn't complaining at the tubes, just sharing my experiences. I've done about 300 miles now on all kinds of terrain, I'd bet if I remove the tyres i'll find more than 1 plugged puncture on the tubes by now
I found the page I recall reading, might be worth looking at the valve to know what you are looking for if should it happen again. What was interesting for the original poster in the link is it happened after pumping the tyres up rather than went the slime went in.
https://bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/17609/leaking-slime-inner-tube-valve-after-opened-for-first-time-since-install
https://bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/17609/leaking-slime-inner-tube-valve-after-opened-for-first-time-since-install
Things coming loose/falling off, and fixings made of cheese.
The more Chinese bikes 'improve', the more they stay the same.
that is prejudice.
You should take a closer look at the Rio.
The two M3 screws that are on the battery cradle don't have anti slip washers.
They are made of stainless steel though, not cheese.
It's easy enough to rectify when someone gives you the feedback.
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It's an observation based on fact.
Unlike you, I couldn't give a stuff about any bike brand, including the ones I own.
If my AVE or Riese and Muller bikes fall to bits, I would post about it for the information of others.
Woosh - and other Chinese bikes - are excellent value in that you get a lot for your money.
But it is misleading to pretend they are top quality, or quality equal to bikes costing two or three times as much.
Most bike components are made in China, including those going into your bikes.
There are mistakes in all assembly jobs, what makes the difference is that there are fewer mistakes in big brand bikes because the designs are carefully checked many times before and during production so the products come through with better quality control.
In this case, the use the wrong washers, normal washers instead of anti slip lock washers may cause the screws to work loose. Once it comes you my attention, I make sure that we correct the potential problem.
The use of pejoratives in this case is not justified at all.
There are mistakes in all assembly jobs, what makes the difference is that there are fewer mistakes in big brand bikes because the designs are carefully checked many times before and during production so the products come through with better quality control.
In this case, the use the wrong washers, normal washers instead of anti slip lock washers may cause the screws to work loose. Once it comes you my attention, I make sure that we correct the potential problem.
The use of pejoratives in this case is not justified at all.
I agree quality control comes into it as well as quality of components.
Thus out of 100 cheap bikes, a couple more will go wrong than will out of 100 expensive bikes.
If you get one of 'non fault' cheap bikes the job's a good 'un.
Equally, if you get one of the (fewer) expensive bikes that go wrong, you are more hacked off than you would otherwise have been.
My local bike shop only gives new Bromptons a cursory inspection because they nearly all arrive ready to ride.
Cheap mountain bikes, on the other hand, take quite a bit of building because they often require wheels truing, brake rotors straightening, gears adjusting, and the like.
Thus out of 100 cheap bikes, a couple more will go wrong than will out of 100 expensive bikes.
If you get one of 'non fault' cheap bikes the job's a good 'un.
Equally, if you get one of the (fewer) expensive bikes that go wrong, you are more hacked off than you would otherwise have been.
My local bike shop only gives new Bromptons a cursory inspection because they nearly all arrive ready to ride.
Cheap mountain bikes, on the other hand, take quite a bit of building because they often require wheels truing, brake rotors straightening, gears adjusting, and the like.
in case anyone wonders what the fuss is about, they are the two M3 bolts that hold the battery cradle to the frame.
We now put blue loctite on the bolts and add anti slip washers.
We now put blue loctite on the bolts and add anti slip washers.
we do more than that on our bikes.
the Tianjin factory that makes the Rio is not bad really.
The main good thing about this is that we have now all learnt something new about tyres, valves and slime, which is a combination of everyone's valid input, whether through knowledge or experience.
MS.
Yea its really not a big deal, and by no means a valid reason to say the bike is 'falling to bits'.in case anyone wonders what the fuss is about, they are the two M3 bolts that hold the battery cradle to the frame.
We now put blue loctite on the bolts and add anti slip washers.
All the other fasteners are absolutely fine, I've already had the stem and bar bolts on and off several times and not lost any shape
A little concerned with the battery. Fully charged it and in less than 5 miles it has dropped a bar. Just put it back on charge and I guess ill leave it on overnight.
Fitted the rack bag, a little smaller than the pictures suggest. However it can fit a fair amount.
Left pannier has a litre of Bacardi, middle storage area has a 2 litre bottle of coke, U lock and multi tool, right pannier has another 2 litre coke, puncture repair kit, pump and inner tube.
Now i can ride with an empty backpack with some room left on the rack bag. I could bungee stuff onto it too.
Fitted the rack bag, a little smaller than the pictures suggest. However it can fit a fair amount.
Left pannier has a litre of Bacardi, middle storage area has a 2 litre bottle of coke, U lock and multi tool, right pannier has another 2 litre coke, puncture repair kit, pump and inner tube.
Now i can ride with an empty backpack with some room left on the rack bag. I could bungee stuff onto it too.
That's a big seat. It's almost a sofa.
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