Woosh CD Sport Disc Brakes

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denwyn

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BB5's are 'Orrible.
In what way, most of the reviews are good for both 5's & 7's. They must be better than the awful Zoom discs I have now. I want to keep it mechanical, that way I keep the same levers and sensors. Yes Hydraulic are probably better, I think the mecanicals better for me, and easier to fit to front and back.
 

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the BB5 is much better than the Zoom, repplacing the Zoom with the BB5 is very straightforward, it's a 10 minute job.
But hydraulic brakes are miles better and not very difficult to fit, extra 10 minutes or so.
You push the rubber grip off the handlebar with two thumbs (this is the most difficult bit), undo the 5mm allen bolt from the old brake handle, unplug the brake sensor cable, you can now remove the old brake handle. Then fit the new hydraulic handle and caliper like you would with the BB5.
 

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You push the rubber grip off the handlebar with two thumbs (this is the most difficult bit),
Trade trick to make it easy.

Push a long thin screwdriver blade along in between the rubber grip and handlebar. Lean the bike and introduce a few drops of water into the cavities formed alongside the blade. Then rotate the screwdriver, making the blade roll around the bar circumference, breaking the seal. The grip will then easily twist and slide off the handlebar since water is a good lubricant for rubber.

To replace when dry, moisten the inside of the start of the rubber grip with rubber solution from your puncture repair outfit, then immediately slide the grip on in one swift movement. It will quickly seal and stay fast.
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denwyn

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Trade trick to make it easy.

Push a long thin screwdriver blade along in between the rubber grip and handlebar. Lean the bike and introduce a few drops of water into the cavities formed alongside the blade. Then rotate the screwdriver, making the blade roll around the bar
circumference, breaking the seal. The grip will then easily twist and slide off the handlebar since water is a good lubricant for rubber To replace when dry, moisten the inside of the start of the rubber grip with rubber solution from your puncture repair outfit, then immediately slide the grip on in one swift movement. It will quickly seal and stay fast.
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Used to this changing bars on my old motor bike, used to spray hair laquer spray ( not mine ) into grips before refitting, set them solid after an hour or so.
 
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the BB5 is much better than the Zoom, repplacing the Zoom with the BB5 is very straightforward, it's a 10 minute job.
But hydraulic brakes are miles better and not very difficult to fit, extra 10 minutes or so.
You push the rubber grip off the handlebar with two thumbs (this is the most difficult bit), undo the 5mm allen bolt from the old brake handle, unplug the brake sensor cable, you can now remove the old brake handle. Then fit the new hydraulic handle and caliper like you would with the BB5.

Set of front and rear Just ordered through Ebay, and a rack for the back . No more spending on it now, with the brakes , rack and mudguards fitted i have a bike i like...for now LOL , no i really do like this bike and just wish i hadn't looked more at Woosh bikes before i bought the Ill fated Kudos City . thanks to all for the advice.
 
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Want to upgrade my mechanical 160mm disc on my Wisper to hydraulic and came across this on Ebay. What am I missing in the advert? Seems too cheap.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XTECH-Mountain-bike-Hydraulic-Disc-Brakes-160mm-180mm-203mm-rotors-/281337226588?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&var=&hash=item418101655c
Cwah tried one and had some problems with it, which doesn't necessarily mean that they're bad. He paid about £30 odd quid. You know you have to select all three fields before it shows the correct price!.
 

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In what way, most of the reviews are good for both 5's & 7's.
Sorry - Guess I'm just biased:
The bb5's I've had dealings with, on 3 seperate bikes, were in a hellova state - rusted pads & seized calipers; but I guess that can happen to any brakes.

I just don't like them.
 

denwyn

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Sorry - Guess I'm just biased:
The bb5's I've had dealings with, on 3 seperate bikes, were in a hellova state - rusted pads & seized calipers; but I guess that can happen to any brakes.

I just don't like them.
So is there a maintenance routine to avoid this ?. Slightly off the subject, I do remember a couple of motorcycles I owned, brake calipers seized solid, on bikes only a few years old, mind you this was 30 + years back.
 

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Before we all rush out to replace our Zoom disc brakes, I recall someone a while ago stating there were 3 qualities of disc pad available for these brakes.

A am assuming I have the worst quality, so which are the best and can someone recommend where I may purchase same? Seems worth a go methinks.
 

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Avid BB5's sets arrived this morning, took me about 45 mins to fit the front and rear along with new discs, fairly easy job, ok I could maybe have done it quicker, but took my time, double checking etc. Out for short test ride this afternoon...Wow what a difference to the previous Zooom brakes, im told they get better after bedding in as well. Ok hydraulic would have been better again , but im no speed or mountain biker and for the relaxed cycling I do they will be fine. Just mudguards to fit tonight, and if it arrives tomorrow a rear rack. I love the bike, only sight downside is battery life, but hoping as I get more strength in my legs this will be less of a problem.
 
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It's not the braking force that makes hydraulic brakes better. They have two main advantages: Firstly, you get much more control of braking force. Secondly, they're virtually maintenance free. With cable ones, you have to keep adjusting the static pad because it wears away from the disc so that the disc bends when you apply the brake and you lose a lot of braking force as well as control. Hydraulic brakes have a piston on each side so the disc is always central and no adjustment is necessary.
 

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Ok I give in. I'm going to invest in a hydraulic front brake to replace the infamous Zoom. Some basic questions come to mind.

1) Will my handlebar layout be ok? (photo)
2) Am unsure about the fluid - where does it go !?
3) Best buy? (my disc is 160 and the mounting bolts 50mm centres)
4) Anything else I need to know?WooshFrontBrake-1090282.jpg

Cheers
 

John F

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It's not the braking force that makes hydraulic brakes better. They have two main advantages: Firstly, you get much more control of braking force. Secondly, they're virtually maintenance free. With cable ones, you have to keep adjusting the static pad because it wears away from the disc so that the disc bends when you apply the brake and you lose a lot of braking force as well as control. Hydraulic brakes have a piston on each side so the disc is always central and no adjustment is necessary.
Am I right in saying that the cheaper hydraulics only have one piston?
 
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I've never seen a single-pistoned hydraulic brake. You don't have to worry about hydraulic fluid. The system is sealed. You just slide the brake on to the handlebar and screw the caliper to its mount. It takes about a minute. Disc mounts are standard, so it'll fit to yours.

I can't see anything on your handlebars that would interfere with the brake.
 

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New Avid brakes fitted, mudguards and rear rack, just got to move rear light to the rack. avid brakes a vast improvement on the old Zoom ones. lets hope the weather improves soon so i can get out more on it. Thanks to all who helped, and for showing some patience with me : )
 

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trex

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well done. The Woosh bikes are great fun derestricted. What's your new top speed now you know you can brake?
 

denwyn

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well done. The Woosh bikes are great fun derestricted. What's your new top speed now you know you can brake?
I' ll give it a go when the weather improves, it;s fairly quick off the mark just using the throttle, i find the throttle a great help in pulling away at junctions etc, i just wish i had looked at Woosh bikes 12 months ago instead of buying that Kudos City, anyway that's over with now and i am more than pleased with my new Woosh bike purchase :)
 

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Ok I give in. I'm going to invest in a hydraulic front brake to replace the infamous Zoom. Some basic questions come to mind.

1) Will my handlebar layout be ok? (photo)
2) Am unsure about the fluid - where does it go !?
3) Best buy? (my disc is 160 and the mounting bolts 50mm centres)
4) Anything else I need to know?View attachment 9295

Cheers
Hi JohnF, Ive ordered shimano deore m615's (for no other reason than that chainreactioncycles do front handle calliper combos for £34 and the zoom completely failing at 30mph yesterday on a steep decent at 30mph giving me the first authentic near death experience in at least five years). How are you getting on? i'm hoping the zoom rotor will be OK and that as D8ve suggests only one/rear brake cutting teh motor will do.
 

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