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Andy88

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David, I emailed twice and left a note on fb but never received a reply from you, did u send to the right email?

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trex

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Hi Trex,

I am seriously not belting my competitors. You may have noticed that I recommended FreeGo earlier in this thread. FreeGo are a company that I would have every reason not to promote, I even said that Woosh would look after their customers. In my time on the forum I have recommended Kudos, and other brands. So how you think that is "belting competitors" is a mystery. You may have missed it but I have suggested that if you personally have a problem with what I am saying take it up with me privately not in open forum. Maybe other's don't want to witness a spat between two trade competitors here?

To reiterate a point that I feel very strongly about, I and nearly everyone else who posted on Pedelecs recommends, that rather than take the word of a salesman (including me) selling a particular brand of electric bikes, go to a shop that sells many brands and models. Here you can try loads of different bikes one after the other and get impartial advice. You can then test ride as many bikes as the shop has to offer. This way you can feel what using higher end components feels like, some people may not even notice a big difference. Wispers aren't to everyones taste and this would be the best way to find out whether they are suitable. I would far rather people bought a Woosh than a Wisper if that's what suited them, but they should have the opportunity to try both before they part with a serious amount of cash.

Most importantly if a bike goes wrong to have someone locally to look after it and keep it serviced is invaluable. This is far more useful than having to pack up your bike and courier it back to the retailer when something goes wrong. Some people prize peace of mind over getting a cheap deal and I feel it only fair to point out the benefits of buying from a local retailer. I applaud Hatti's idea of sending portacabins all over the country to offer the same service as a local shop, I hope it works well for her when she gets it underway.

I was under the belief the guarantee is with the shop not the importer? However that really doesn't matter the shop would certainly look after their local customers very well, very well indeed, and of course could diagnose any problem simply by checking the bike out.

I am going to back out of this argument now, but not the thread.

If someone has a specific question I would be pleased to answer it. However D8veh is far more qualified than I to answer most tech questions!

Kindest regards, David
I did not use the word 'belting'.
I use the word belittling, i.e. making disparaging remarks about a competitor, suggesting that a competitor's product is inferior to yours.

Have you seen the woosh bikes recently? Frankly, I am more than a bit fed up to see comments that because woosh prices are lower, therefore it's built with cheap components. Nothing is further from the truth.
 

Andy88

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where are there any and I MEAN ANY DEALERS IN north WALES?
DOES THE £100.00 COVER BATTERY Trex?
David warranty on your bikes?
Here are some close ups of the gale, im not biased just helping you to make an educated decision.











Hi Trex,

I am seriously not belting my competitors. You may have noticed that I recommended FreeGo earlier in this thread. FreeGo are a company that I would have every reason not to promote, I even said that Woosh would look after their customers. In my time on the forum I have recommended Kudos, and other brands. So how you think that is "belting competitors" is a mystery. You may have missed it but I have suggested that if you personally have a problem with what I am saying take it up with me privately not in open forum. Maybe other's don't want to witness a spat between two trade competitors here?

To reiterate a point that I feel very strongly about, I and nearly everyone else who posted on Pedelecs recommends, that rather than take the word of a salesman (including me) selling a particular brand of electric bikes, go to a shop that sells many brands and models. Here you can try loads of different bikes one after the other and get impartial advice. You can then test ride as many bikes as the shop has to offer. This way you can feel what using higher end components feels like, some people may not even notice a big difference. Wispers aren't to everyones taste and this would be the best way to find out whether they are suitable. I would far rather people bought a Woosh than a Wisper if that's what suited them, but they should have the opportunity to try both before they part with a serious amount of cash.

Most importantly if a bike goes wrong to have someone locally to look after it and keep it serviced is invaluable. This is far more useful than having to pack up your bike and courier it back to the retailer when something goes wrong. Some people prize peace of mind over getting a cheap deal and I feel it only fair to point out the benefits of buying from a local retailer. I applaud Hatti's idea of sending portacabins all over the country to offer the same service as a local shop, I hope it works well for her when she gets it underway.

I was under the belief the guarantee is with the shop not the importer? However that really doesn't matter the shop would certainly look after their local customers very well, very well indeed, and of course could diagnose any problem simply by checking the bike out.

I am going to back out of this argument now, but not the thread.

If someone has a specific question I would be pleased to answer it. However D8veh is far more qualified than I to answer most tech questions!

Kindest regards, David

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Hi Trex, I am sure Woosh bikes are are amazing. However other bikes are good too and some may have even better components.

Your post did say belittling I read it as belting for some reason!
Sorry about that!!

All the best, David
 

mike killay

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Must leap to defence of Woosh here.
Bikes may be cheap, but my Woosh has proved to be very good and tough
It has been said before, there is little benefit for the ebiker in spending a lot of money on expensive, high end components intended for racing.
Caveat, that if you like off roading, then yes you will notice the benefit, but the shopper/ commuter, social domestic and pleasure rider will be perfectly happy with standard equipment.

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Andy88

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Must leap to defence of Woosh here.
Bikes may be cheap, but my Woosh has proved to be very good and tough
It has been said before, there is little benefit for the ebiker in spending a lot of money on expensive, high end components intended for racing.
Caveat, that if you like off roading, then yes you will notice the benefit, but the shopper/ commuter, social domestic and pleasure rider will be perfectly happy with standard equipment.

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Which model are you riding Mike?

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D8ve

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The whisper isn't one of the premium bikes either.
Just solid value with nice touches.
Unfortunately the old premium standard has turned into an expensive heap of bovine what's it's.
The Ktm's are very nice but way over the top for general pottering.
I think woosh new skoda, whisper, ford, ktm.... Porsche so great fun unles you want to use for practical transport.
 

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Andy88

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The whisper isn't one of the premium bikes either.
Just solid value with nice touches.
Unfortunately the old premium standard has turned into an expensive heap of bovine what's it's.
The Ktm's are very nice but way over the top for general pottering.
I think woosh new skoda, whisper, ford, ktm.... Porsche so great fun unles you want to use for practical transport.
Great analogy

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trex

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Hi Trex, I am sure Woosh bikes are are amazing. However other bikes are good too and some may have even better components.

Your post did say belittling I read it as belting for some reason!
Sorry about that!!

All the best, David
David, just for the record, I have posted nearly 8,000 times, during that time, not once, I have made disparaging remarks about your products, or anyone else's for that matter.
 

poptop

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lol...alls well that ends well.... guys. you have made my post interesting reading.
Thanks for photos Andy, did you take them? did you try the Gale?
 

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David, just for the record, I have posted nearly 8,000 times, during that time, not once, I have made disparaging remarks about your products, or anyone else's for that matter.
Great, thanks Trex! :)

I will PM you.

All the best

David
 
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Andy88

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lol...alls well that ends well.... guys. you have made my post interesting reading.
Thanks for photos Andy, did you take them? did you try the Gale?
No, I saw the photos on fb you can search fb for woosh.

Trex said the ones he posted are newer so maybe better going from those.

Ive ridden many electric bikes in China but none in the uk yet.

I hope to soon.

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Andy88

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Andy your looking at 705se, any reason for that?
Trying to decide between the 705 se, Big Bear and Oxygen.

Comparing components weighing up what I need to replace on each to give me the best deal.

Not so much price point except the Oxygen is about £150 more.

Its as you said earlier not easy to decide but arranging to test ride them all in one place not so easy unless in London.



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