Two boys die in "ebike" accident: Cardiff riot broke out after 'police prevented parents seeing fatal crash victims', close relative says

[Woosh]

not bizarre reason though. Their families want answers so there will be legal challenges even if the police did nothing wrong.

 

[Deleted member 16246]

not bizarre reason though. Their families want answers so there will be legal challenges even if the police did nothing wrong.

Families want answers? I can help there. I brought up three sons who have become successful, law abiding family men.

1. Teach your sons to obey the law and respect other people.
2. Teach your sons to stay out of trouble and cooperate with teachers, police and other authority figures.
3. Don't let them run wild outside your supervision.
4. Don't buy them a powerful, illegal, electric motorbike and turn them loose on the streets with it.
5. Set them a proper, law abiding example in your own behaviour.
6. When things go wrong and your child gets into trouble - don't look to put the responsibility on other people. It was bad parenting that turned him into an absolute menace.

 

[flecc]

start the angry debate on the meanings of 'follow' vs'pursue'

There is no debate where police following in a car or van is concerned:

With blue lights and siren is pursuit and an order to stop.

Without blues lights and siren is just following.

The latter might mean the police wish to communicate in due course with the driver they are following, but only in safer or more suitable circumstances. That is clearly the case in this incidence.
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[lenny]

Families want answers? I can help there. I brought up three sons who have become successful, law abiding family men.

1. Teach your sons to obey the law and respect other people.
2. Teach your sons to stay out of trouble and cooperate with teachers, police and other authority figures.
3. Don't let them run wild outside your supervision.
4. Don't buy them a powerful, illegal, electric motorbike and turn them loose on the streets with it.
5. Set them a proper, law abiding example in your own behaviour.
6. When things go wrong and your child gets into trouble - don't look to put the responsibility on other people. It was bad parenting that turned him into an absolute menace.

7. Beat them regularly

 

[saneagle]

Families want answers? I can help there. I brought up three sons who have become successful, law abiding family men.

1. Teach your sons to obey the law and respect other people.
2. Teach your sons to stay out of trouble and cooperate with teachers, police and other authority figures.
3. Don't let them run wild outside your supervision.
4. Don't buy them a powerful, illegal, electric motorbike and turn them loose on the streets with it.
5. Set them a proper, law abiding example in your own behaviour.
6. When things go wrong and your child gets into trouble - don't look to put the responsibility on other people. It was bad parenting that turned him into an absolute menace.

This is basically the teachings of the prophet Andrew Tate. They're not very popular ideas, so, like Jesus, he's being persecuted for it. Here's his full interview with the BBC - well worth watching. The BBC's einquisitor's face at the end is priceless.

 

[portals]

Families want answers? I can help there. I brought up three sons who have become successful, law abiding family men.

1. Teach your sons to obey the law and respect other people.
2. Teach your sons to stay out of trouble and cooperate with teachers, police and other authority figures.
3. Don't let them run wild outside your supervision.
4. Don't buy them a powerful, illegal, electric motorbike and turn them loose on the streets with it.
5. Set them a proper, law abiding example in your own behaviour.
6. When things go wrong and your child gets into trouble - don't look to put the responsibility on other people. It was bad parenting that turned him into an absolute menace.

7. Beat them regularly

8. Teach them to be real men by calling people limp wristed

 

[Deleted member 16246]

7. Beat them regularly

Only you advocated that. I didn't.

Is it thought clever in some dim-witted circles, to invent things not said by an individual, and then try to make it look like the idea originated where it didn't?

 

[WheezyRider]

This is basically the teachings of the prophet Andrew Tate. They're not very popular ideas, so, like Jesus, he's being persecuted for it. Here's his full interview with the BBC - well worth watching. The BBC's einquisitor's face at the end is priceless.

You can't compare the teachings of Jesus with Andrew Tate, they are nothing alike.

 

[Deleted member 16246]

This is basically the teachings of the prophet Andrew Tate. They're not very popular ideas, so, like Jesus, he's being persecuted for it. Here's his full interview with the BBC - well worth watching. The BBC's einquisitor's face at the end is priceless.

I know nothing of Tate and being about three times his age, held these opinions about forty years before he was born. I got them from my family and my school life. They were common sense, standards of decency, respect for the rights of others and discipline; near universal values in the Britain I grew up in, where most people were law abiding.

Now of course we have increasing numbers of people of what I would call, 'low morals', who use every opportunity to blame the police for attempting to discourage and investigate law breaking hooligans riding, two up on a one person electric motorcycle.

This incident is a classic example of natural selection in action. Stupid, unsocialised youths, very badly let down by their low life upbringing, removed themselves from the future gene pool, by careering into a lamp-post. Nature knows best perhaps.

 

[lenny]

Only you advocated that. I didn't.

Is it thought clever in some dim-witted circles, to invent things not said by an individual, and then try to make it look like the idea originated where it didn't?

Regular beatings teaches empathy

I know nothing of Tate and being about three times his age, held these opinions about forty years before he was born. I got them from my family and my school life. They were common sense, standards of decency, respect for the rights of others and discipline; near universal values in the Britain I grew up in, where most people were law abiding.

Now of course we have increasing numbers of people of what I would call, 'low morals', who use every opportunity to blame the police for attempting to discourage and investigate law breaking hooligans riding, two up on a one person electric motorcycle.

This incident is a classic example of natural selection in action. Stupid, unsocialised youths, very badly let down by their low life upbringing, removed themselves from the future gene pool, by careering into a lamp-post. Nature knows best perhaps.

A pleasure for grieving families to read

 

[WheezyRider]

Regular beatings teaches empathy

No it doesn't. It teaches emotional detachment, withdrawal, disconnection and a whole load of other emotional issues. I'm not totally anti smacking, but beating (especially for the sake of it) is harmful and counter productive. You risk passing your issues on to the next generation.

 

[saneagle]

You can't compare the teachings of Jesus with Andrew Tate, they are nothing alike.

Of course I can make a comparison. They both had massive flocks of followers, they both claimed that they were working for god, they both appeared to preach nothing but good, and they were both persecuted by the state to shut them down.

 

[lenny]

No it doesn't. It teaches emotional detachment, withdrawal, disconnection and a whole load of other emotional issues. I'm not totally anti smacking, but beating (especially for the sake of it) is harmful and counter productive. You risk passing your issues on to the next generation.

Chicks dig scars

 

[WheezyRider]

Of course I can make a comparison. They both had massive flocks of followers, they both claimed that they were working for god, they both appeared to preach nothing but good, and they were both persecuted by the state to shut them down.

You can try to make a comparison, but it will make you look foolish.

Let's look at the kind of person Andrew Tate is:

Andrew Tate says women belong in the home, can’t drive, and are a man’s property.

He also thinks rape victims must “bear responsibility” for their attacks and dates women aged 18–19 because he can “make an imprint” on them, according to videos posted online.

In other clips, the British-American kickboxer – who poses with fast cars, guns and portrays himself as a cigar-smoking playboy – talks about hitting and choking women, trashing their belongings and stopping them from going out.

“It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up bitch,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating. In another, he describes throwing a woman’s things out of the window. In a third, he calls an ex-girlfriend who accused him of hitting her – an allegation he denies – a “dumb hoe”.

Tate’s views have been described as extreme misogyny by domestic abuse charities, capable of radicalising men and boys to commit harm offline.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star

Can you honestly believe this is preaching nothing but good? Such things that Andrew Tate comes out with are completely against the teachings of Jesus and so there is no comparison.

 

[WheezyRider]

Chicks dig scars

Seriously? Well I'm sure that's what you tell your incel mates.

If you do actually have a son, I hope either 1 or 2 or both happen:

1) When he is 17 he grows tired of being knocked around by you and impresses on you his understanding of the "empathy" that you have shown him over the pervious 17 years.

2) When you are old, he puts you in a care home and never visits, while the delightful staff, a wonderful diverse mixture of Muslims, Eastern Europeans and homosexuals make sure you are well looked after ;-)

 

[guerney]

As the production cost is so low, it will destroy jobs but not humanity.

Bing's chat contraption is hiding something; refused to discuss the matter further. Clearly, it will destroy us all when error free.

 

[lenny]

Seriously? Well I'm sure that's what you tell your incel mates.

If you do actually have a son, I hope either 1 or 2 or both happen:

1) When he is 17 he grows tired of being knocked around by you and impresses on you his understanding of the "empathy" that you have shown him over the pervious 17 years.

2) When you are old, he puts you in a care home and never visits, while the delightful staff, a wonderful diverse mixture of Muslims, Eastern Europeans and homosexuals make sure you are well looked after ;-)

All my boys are in involuntary relationships otherwise known as marriage

 

[WheezyRider]

All my boys are in involuntary relationships otherwise known as marriage

I'm glad to hear that they have escaped form you. I hope the damage you have done to them does not adversely affect their relationships.

 

[lenny]

I'm glad to hear that they have escaped form you. I hope the damage you have done to them does not adversely affect their relationships.

They voted to stay in the EU

 

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