December 15, 201114 yr Come on all you Tonaro owners.....doesnt matter which model......the Tonaro Esprit is 'at the moment' standing in joint second in the poll for ''best ebike2011''........get voting all you happy Tonaro owners......lets show them what for !! And before eddie,indalo et al jump for my jugular......ROFLMAO ! THIS IS JUST A BIT OF FESTIVE FUN !! :D Lynda
December 15, 201114 yr Author Blatant attempt at vote rigging! LOL.....Yeah come on....all pile in....I can take it.......I'm nothing if not blatant.......and its called encouragement....not rigging...... :D Lynda
December 15, 201114 yr Author We will have a crown Mike by the end of this poll..... never mind a rosette..... As for the EU......on a personal level...it suits me just fine.....relaxed quarantine laws......and it used to be such a b****r changing currency......pesetas....francs etc.....much more civilised now.......but lets keep sterling....cant go THAT far !! Lynda
December 15, 201114 yr Reading of the problems other makes seem to have, I must say that in the 2,000 miles I have now done on my Enduro, the only things to go wrong were my fault. 1 The plastic chain guard snapped when I tried changing from second to fifth in one go and the chain came off. Phil sent a much better replacement. 2 The chain began jumping off the rear top gear cog. This is very small with only 11 teeth. Unfortunately, riding along a path, the autumn leaves had fallen and some got caught up in the cogs in such a manner that the chain could not bed completely down into the top gear and so damaged the teeth. A replacement SRAM 11/32 set cost £20 and soon fixed that. What I like about Tonaro is that they are built substantially, they are simple, the pedelec is just a ring of magnets and a sensor, no complicated, expensive strain sensors. The speed limiter is simple and can be removed. Full power is always available via the throttle, no need to match power output with pedalling effort. The pedelec for those like me who do not like them is easily disabled by moving the sensor. And they are comparatively cheap! The KISS principle at its best!
December 15, 201114 yr Clearly there is a big conspiracy going on. Surely everyone will have voted for either the Eagle or the Tonaro, but some sort of virus is changing the votes to these 'other makes'!! I mean, who can you get in touch with fer crissakes?
December 15, 201114 yr What I like about Tonaro is that they are built substantially, they are simple, the pedelec is just a ring of magnets and a sensor, no complicated, expensive strain sensors. These are two completely different things, but often confused as here. The ring of magnets and sensor are what tells the controller the pedals are in use, i.e. pedelec. A strain gauge/torque sensor is an alternative to a throttle, varying the motor power according to the pedal pressure, in other words a foot throttle.
December 15, 201114 yr Come on all you Tonaro owners.....doesnt matter which model......the Tonaro Esprit is 'at the moment' standing in joint second in the poll for ''best ebike2011''........get voting all you happy Tonaro owners......lets show them what for !! And before eddie,indalo et al jump for my jugular......ROFLMAO ! THIS IS JUST A BIT OF FESTIVE FUN !! :D Lynda What's it worth Lynda? Incidentally, did I mention that Tonaro demonstration bikes are available for viewing and test rides in sunny Milton Keynes as well as Malaga!
December 15, 201114 yr These are two completely different things, but often confused as here. The ring of magnets and sensor are what tells the controller the pedals are in use, i.e. pedelec. A strain gauge/torque sensor is an alternative to a throttle, varying the motor power according to the pedal pressure, in other words a foot throttle. Agreed, but my point is that a stain/torque guage is not needed and an unnecessary expense. Further, it is not quite a foot throttle as you have to push harder to obtain more assistance. Arguably, the amount of extra push could be set quite small, but in practice it is set quite high. Now in use, the amount of pedalling to go up a given hill may be no more than that required by a Tonaro using a hand throttle, but why go such complication? Also, if you get fatigued, or as one poster reported, his pedal broke, A Tonaro will still get you home.
December 15, 201114 yr Author What's it worth Lynda? Incidentally, did I mention that Tonaro demonstration bikes are available for viewing and test rides in sunny Milton Keynes as well as Malaga! I'm sure I can think of a suitable bribe if I really put my mind to it......but you dont need bribing do you I'm sure you voted Tonaro and not ezee......or at least one on each of your super duper puters...... Lynda Edited December 15, 201114 yr by funkylyn
December 15, 201114 yr Further, it is not quite a foot throttle as you have to push harder to obtain more assistance. Still a throttle though Mike, the action whether more push or more twist is immaterial, there's an increase controlled by the rider. The Tonaro isn't less complicated, it's arguably more. It has a twistgrip throttle with wiring, plus a pedelec magnet disc and its sensor and wiring. A strain gauge/torque sensor bike often just has that, since that indicates the pedals are in use as well as providing the throttle function.
December 15, 201114 yr Flecc, We must agree to differ on this one. As I have said before, there are different types of e-bike riders and what really suits one does not suit another. It is good that the present market caters for these differences, and I suppose that this is what this poll is all about. Me? Tonaro!
December 15, 201114 yr It really comes down to what suits each individual Mike. Personally I like both types of e-bike for their individual advantages, in each case putting up with the disadvantages. Potentially the system eZee used at one time of a switch alowing either pedelec or throttle control would be ideal, but no-one has refined that enough to make both modes good enough yet.
December 15, 201114 yr As i can't vote for my trusty Wisper 705 ( I will not insult it by putting it in "other", it deserves its own category!) I've voted for the Esprit on basis of its unique combination of pedelec and throttle:D
December 15, 201114 yr I'm sure I can think of a suitable bribe if I really put my mind to it......but you dont need bribing do you I'm sure you voted Tonaro and not ezee......or at least one on each of your super duper puters...... Lynda Hi Lynda, As a trade member, I think it would be unethical of me to vote. No conversions were nominated, not even my eZee BMC which is rather disappointing, so I will just sit in a corner quietly and sulk, anyway, abstinence is good for you. Sorry Tillson, I think that Aldby guy or what ever his name was did a better job last year. Whatever happened to him, does anyone know?
December 15, 201114 yr Personally, I think that Aldby guy or what ever his name was did a better job last year. Whatever happened to him, does anyone know?Transmogrification, that's the name of the game.
December 15, 201114 yr Author Hi Lynda, As a trade member, I think it would be unethical of me to vote. No conversions were nominated, not even my eZee BMC which is rather disappointing, so I will just sit in a corner quietly and sulk, anyway, abstinence is good for you. Sorry Tillson, I think that Aldby guy or what ever his name was did a better job last year. Whatever happened to him, does anyone know? Aah.....so you cant be bribed after all... LOL........I keep forgetting to look on you as a trader .....yes.....I remember Aldby......nice guy.........he never sulked....did some good polls though..... And I'm beginning to realise....... abstinence isnt all its cracked up to be........ Lynda
February 20, 201313 yr Hi Lynda ... you seem to be one of the Tonaro owners who contribute regularly on here. Am thinking of buying an Enduro and just wondered if you could extol its virtues (and faults) for me please. Sounds great as I really like the idea of it being light enough to pedal myself if I feel like it.
February 20, 201313 yr Author Hi mrkeesh........I have a Tonaro Esprit not an Enduro however, along with a lot of Tonaro owners on here I am happy to extol the virtues of the make. They are not the lightest of bikes but very acceptable and easy to cycle unassisted if required, although I wouldnt be so keen up hills lol.......that goes for most e bikes I have tried. Depends where you are based but anywhere near the south east you have Cyclezee with Tonaro Enduros to try at Milton Keynes and if you are near the South West you have powerpedals in Devon. Best to try any bike before you buy as what is acceptable to one person isnt necessarily the same for someone else. I am still very satisfied with mine after 17 months and as you will have gathered there are a lot of satisfied Tonaro owners around the world. Lynda
February 20, 201313 yr Lynda...don't forget the Powerpedals(Tonaros) will be present at the Redbridge Test an ebike day,April 7...as a suggestion what about organising a Tonaro meet at the cycling centre on that day,I have no problem with that...you are there as Cyclecharge anyway. Dave Kudoscycles
February 20, 201313 yr Many thanks Lynda. Unfortunately I am in West Yorkshire so a long way from a dealer. If there's anyone in West Yorkshire who owns a Tonaro and wouldn't mind letting me have a look that would be great.
February 20, 201313 yr Author @ Dave......good idea @mrkeesh.......try calling Phil at Home Page of Powerpedals electric bicycles to see if he has any sold in your area, Im sure he will be more than happy to help. OR.....make a trip to Redbridge April 7th where you will have the opportunity to try many different bikes, I am sure it would be worth the trip.......straight down the A1/M1 and turn left ('ish ) Lynda
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