suitable wing mirrors

guerney

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Well i just added to basket left and right from amazon and its still £4.99 PP

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Amazon offers you the option for free delivery later during the payment process, select it manually.




The worst that can possibly happen, is that you immediately have to cancel the order, after ordering and paying.
 
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Amazon offers you the option for free delivery later during the payment process. The worst that can possibly happen, is that you immediately have to cancel the order, after ordering and paying.

sorry my mistake i didnt check free delivery thing. But how do you order left and right of same set as when you click on left it shows in basket 2 mirrors plus the right one as well but they different
 

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sorry my mistake i didnt check free delivery thing. But how do you order left and right of same set as when you click on left it shows in basket 2 mirrors plus the right one as well but they different
Amazon are really lazy when detailing items they sell themselves, often their listings are wrong or incomplete - I generally ask a question when there's doubt.
 

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Amazon are really lazy when detailing items they sell themselves, often their listings are wrong or incomplete - I generally ask a question when there's doubt.

I clicked the right hand mirror then when i add that bto basket and click again but left one its like this below
But 1 shows 56 CM2 the pair shows 46 CM2 so is the left one same as right just weird why 1 £15.99 but left £15.95

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Yes Amazon often list the items they sell themselves quite badly: wrong details, wrong photos - ask a question for clarity? If Amazon have made a mistake listing the item, returns can be completely free. Or buy from the ebay seller.
 

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sorry to ask this again but this link is just for the left mirror how do you order the right one the same too

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133220179194?hash=
Click "Visit shop", then "Search all items" in the shop for "Zefal mirror", and you scroll down till you see the one you want. Add each to the basket and checkout, or order and pay for each separately:

 
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Click "Visit shop", then "Search all items" in the shop for "Zefal mirror", and you scroll down till you see the one you want. Add each to the basket and checkout, or order and pay for each separately:

Are these same set of mirrors as 2 different prices dont make sense to me plus not same names

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It's easy for buyers to get refunds from ebay. Perhaps right mirrors are 13p more popular than the left?
Well they look same both sides so will order them I have filled in a returns for the other ones. which i have to collect from a shop. so no need to even open that package as I got a QR code to take to post office who will print out a label so just let them cover up my address and it will have his address on

once again many thanks for all your help its most appreciated
 
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I've got Zefals both sides and have applied reflective tape on the fronts, to draw attention.
Yes reflective tape on the fronts is probably a sensible idea if you're out and about dusk/dark/dawn, I only really take bike out during the nice weather when it's light.

I find the mirror thing on a bike/ebike quite interesting, I must be honest at any real speed I don't feel particularly safe looking behind me as I tend to lose my line which immediately increases my chances significantly of it not ending well...

Hoping this mirror cures that!

I'd probably find having two mirrors a distraction though, then it becomes like cats at Wimbledon?
 

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Yes reflective tape on the fronts is probably a sensible idea if you're out and about dusk/dark/dawn, I only really take bike out during the nice weather when it's light.
If the tape is applied neatly, the mirrors can look kinda funky. Extra visibility during the day is no bad thing? I wouldn't mind if the entire surface area of my bike, bar small areas which need light to be unimpeded in order to function, was a highly conspicuous reflective dayglow colour. Mine's a lacquered silvery looking aluminium bike with stuck on reflective strips and all the lights switched on day and night, plus two fold out Oxford safety relectors, one of which is attached to my right handlebar end - that one is very effective. The Oxford on the rear rack helps a bit during the day, but the 1800lm horrifying to behold bright red flashing rear light keeps drivers away, much more so at night. Using dark coloured bikes is mad.





Mind you, wearing hiviz doesn't help, if they're drunk:





I'd probably find having two mirrors a distraction though, then it becomes like cats at Wimbledon?
Not nearly as entertaining lol. I've conditioned myself to move my eyes, not my head... prevents wobble. At night, headlights of vehicles behind are visible in the mirror to peripheral vision, if they have headlights switched on.
 
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If the tape is applied neatly, the mirrors can look kinda funky. Extra visibility during the day is no bad thing? I wouldn't mind if the entire surface area of my bike, bar small areas which need light to be unimpeded in order to function, was a highly conspicuous reflective dayglow colour. Mine's a lacquered silvery looking aluminium bike with stuck on reflective strips and all the lights switched on day and night, plus two fold out Oxford safety relectors, one of which is attached to my right handlebar end - that one is very effective. The Oxford on the rear rack helps a bit during the day, but the 1800lm horrifying to behold bright red flashing rear light keeps drivers away, much more so at night. Using dark coloured bikes is mad.





Mind you, wearing hiviz doesn't help, if they're drunk:







Not nearly as entertaining lol. I've conditioned myself to move my eyes, not my head... prevents wobble. At night, headlights of vehicles behind are visible in the mirror to peripheral vision, if they have headlights switched on.
I believe you can get indicators for bikes, But then do motorist look at indicators. as some think well cyclist don't pay road tax no insurance or fuel. so why should a bike be allowed on the road. But its a different matter when a motorist is told he is banned, then has to resort to riding a bike.
 

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I believe you can get indicators for bikes, But then do motorist look at indicators.
They might, if the indicators were bright enough, widely spaced apart? I was thinking of using two of these either side on the rear rack, made orange instead of red:

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...held either side of the rear rack, using arms made using GoPro mounts:




...plus longer versions of these:




...holding the lights using something like this:




...with a circuit like this connecting the lights to my ebike battery, via a handlebar switch and inline blade fuse:




Trouble is, I've added quite a lot of weight to my bike already.
 
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I can't help feeling with all the other steps you have taken to be visible indicators probably wouldn't even be seen by motorists.

Have you thought about increasing your perceived "road footprint" with something like these?

TTFN
John.
 

guerney

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I can't help feeling with all the other steps you have taken to be visible indicators probably wouldn't even be seen by motorists.
The steps I've taken seem to be working, thus far - drivers give me a wide berth now :) stress-free rides :) ... but indicators to remove doubt as to my intended direction of travel, would be useful - almost got squashed a few months ago by a SUV at a roundabout, rather like Dan Walker (who is no longer eating through a straw)


... but luckily the driver saw me and beeped, and I managed a swerve to take one exit too soon. If I did make indicators, I'd use two of the same bright 1800lm light as my horrifying red:



Have you thought about increasing your perceived "road footprint" with something like these?
I did consider those, but bought this to try:


... car headlights render the lasers on this light invisible.

For increasing perceived "road footprint", the Oxford safety arm mounted to the right hand handlebar end, is the most effective step of all. @trevor brooker and @WheezyRider stock alternative products, which might cost less than my £1,000,000 asking price (+VAT +P&P. Cash only).
 
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billyboya

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They might, if the indicators were bright enough, widely spaced apart? I was thinking of using two of these either side on the rear rack, made orange instead of red:

View attachment 50621


...held either side of the rear rack, using arms made using GoPro mounts:




...plus longer versions of these:




...holding the lights using something like this:




...with a circuit like this connecting the lights to my ebike battery, via a handlebar switch and inline blade fuse:




Trouble is, I've added quite a lot of weight to my bike already.

Yes nice helpful videos. But I don't ride bike much at nights, just at odd times. I cant return those Zefal Dooback wing mirrors yet as I have asked fo them to be dropped at a shop where I can collect them, But have not as yet received a collection code, so can't really send them back at the moment, but will do. I have ordered the others ones and messaged the seller regarding Zefal ones


I can't help feeling with all the other steps you have taken to be visible indicators probably wouldn't even be seen by motorists.

Have you thought about increasing your perceived "road footprint" with something like these?

TTFN
John.
Wow they look cool not bad for £22
 

billyboya

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I know I have now fitted wing mirrors what guerney suggested. But god they like aerials lol stick out so far plus makes bike wider now at handlebars I mean they reach out further than handle bars. I can’t have mirrors what fit in the end of handle bar ends as was suggested earlier as I have a throttle on the right and can’t remove that as bike is under guarantee still. Could someone suggest wing mirrors which don’t stick out too much. I can always sell these when required

all help is most appreciated
 

guerney

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I know I have now fitted wing mirrors what guerney suggested. But god they like aerials lol stick out so far plus makes bike wider now at handlebars I mean they reach out further than handle bars. I can’t have mirrors what fit in the end of handle bar ends as was suggested earlier as I have a throttle on the right and can’t remove that as bike is under guarantee still. Could someone suggest wing mirrors which don’t stick out too much. I can always sell these when required

all help is most appreciated
How's the visibility using those mirrors? Should be quite a good view, because they're sticking out beyond the handlebar ends. End-bar mirrors also stick out, would make your bike wider.

I can always sell these when required
If they haven't been damaged and you've kept the packaging, they can be returned for a refund if you're quick.
 
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