Speedict Support

[jackhandy]

Err.... Ummm

I hear what you want to do... But it may not be easy to achieve, maybe when Danny gets to doing the 'quick short cuts' maybe he can do a number of magnets one... Which will alter the rate of PAS pulses per revolution of the crank rather than trying to alter the back ground throttle, which I don't think will give you the expected results under varying conditions

P.S On the fly gets quicker after 400 times, lol


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Yes, I think that might be the way Dave; thanks.

The way the bike was responding to my alterations to cadence & power settings while out on it would suggest a simple change in the number of magnets it sees as 1 revolution would do the trick!

BUT it would need to be implemented as a one-touch operation - Scrolling through all those screens is a no-no while riding:
It took me a couple of hours to go <12 miles, what with waiting for speedict to deliver & then update settings every time I wanted to alter anything. Sometimes I almost dozed-off while it was saving to device - Don't know if it's part of the bluetooth problem.

 

[jackhandy]

I'm not sure what you mean by a pot on port 4. Are you saying that you want to be able to switch between Speedict output and an independent cruise control?

The old Speedict's output was digital (PWM) so for some controllers you needed their special cable that had smoothing components in to convert it to analogue. The new one is faster, so I don't know whether smoothing is still necessary. I don''t see any components in the cables, but they could be inside the Speedict rather than external to convert it to analogue.

. Legal mode 2 seems too complicated at the moment with its cadence related functions, which for me aren't necessary

Ah, right, so resist in the output line ain't the way.

What I was trying to do is, effectively, switch between eg. 100% power range & 50% power range at the flick of a switch; retaining the cadence-related power element in each range. A prime example of a complicated solution to a simple problem

Hopefully, old Dave has seen the light.

 

[Old_Dave]

Now heres a cunning plan (no cheese involved and its cheap)

Imagine fitting an extra sensor ... to a switch (spst) just on the output line which adds the 2nd sensor pluses in parallel to the 1st.

Switch open = pulses per minute from the original sensor 1
Switch closed = 2 x pulses per minute

Shopping list is a little box, a little switch and an extra sensor

ROFPMSL... and a 3rd sensor with suitable easy peasy switch (I'll draw it out on a beer mat after 2 more cups of tea= hahahahahaaha) for 3 x pulses per minute

 

[jackhandy]

You didn't, by any chance, have a bottle of absinth for crimbo?.....

I think the key word there was Imagine

 

[Old_Dave]

absinth

I don't do green

"Imagine" was used to induce a train of thought, rather than a trip through the looking glass (ask alice)

Seriously though ... it would work, small issue maybe with adding additional thickness of the sensor mounts on to the crank, but that can be overcome by making a new bracket.

 

[Old_Dave]

An issue has now reared its ugly head

Despite a constant and steady throttle, either mid or full... Speedict cuts out after a little while (port 4 output falls to 0), redid the new firmware 1.0.1 but to no avail...Danny is examining my ongoing reports and is looking into it.

Edit...

New client and firmware (android client 1.0.5 and use it to upgrade firmware 1.0.2) should / will be available very very shortly

Now that's fast care & service

 

[Old_Dave]

Update..

Android client 1.0.5 and latest firmware 1.0.2 are now available

New client goes further towards bluetooth transfer issues, new firmware fixes throttle instability.

Note to self... Add Danny and team to my Christmas card list

 

[wurly]

An issue has now reared its ugly head

Despite a constant and steady throttle, either mid or full... Speedict cuts out after a little while (port 4 output falls to 0), redid the new firmware 1.0.1 but to no avail...Danny is examining my ongoing reports and is looking into it.

Edit...

New client and firmware (android client 1.0.5 and use it to upgrade firmware 1.0.2) should / will be available very very shortly

Now that's fast care & service

I wasn't completely sure but now having read your comments i think mine is doing this. After returning the throttle to zero and retrying it was ok.
Another upgrade....i guess this is what happens with new stuff.

 

[Old_Dave]

I wasn't completely sure but now having read your comments i think mine is doing this. After returning the throttle to zero and retrying it was ok.
Another upgrade....i guess this is what happens with new stuff.

Yep... But the beauty of this 'new stuff' is that the 'issues' are being dealt with almost instantly




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[jackhandy]

Yep... But the beauty of this 'new stuff' is that the 'issues' are being dealt with almost instantly

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No argument there, Dave......

It's getting the ruddy upgrade into the gubbins without it throwing a wobbler & going all catatonic that's got me beat!

 

[Old_Dave]

going all catatonic that's got me beat!

Lol

Until such time that you get your 'anderoid' device sorted, I'm sure that either I or any another willing member will do the upgrading for you.. (not sure if its the phone thats authorised + the device, or just the device thats authorised, orrrrrr just the phone.. no doubt Danny will advise)

 

[jackhandy]

I suggested to Danny that they put an option in the android client, to upgrade via the phone's micro usb port & a cable, as my phone & most running android 4.0 now have usb otg & hosting: It's inherantly more stable than bluetooth, but they see that as a retrograde step

 

[Old_Dave]

retrograde step

At first I thought that the move away from usb was dum... but then I saw the bigger picture

The idea of the latest Speedict incarnation is to be able to adjust / access on the 'fly' , and now on balance I think they were right to adopt the bluetooth method which works great in ideal circumstances.

Now that the 1.0.5 client has a form of handshaking test (if I cant shake your hand then I aint talking to you, let alone upgrade / anti bricking feature..lol) then they should be right in their executive decision, Its just a pity that not all bluetooth devices & roms are equal

Now had they gone 'wireless' rf route things would of been different (along with maybe more expensive, bigger and maybe other different issues)

 

[speedict]

At first I thought that the move away from usb was dum... but then I saw the bigger picture

The idea of the latest Speedict incarnation is to be able to adjust / access on the 'fly' , and now on balance I think they were right to adopt the bluetooth method which works great in ideal circumstances.

"bigger picture" ... you are so clever old_dave, imagine your speed controller installed on your bike and you need firmware upgrade, how ? and think about rainproof speedict mercury ?

Now that the 1.0.5 client has a form of handshaking test (if I cant shake your hand then I aint talking to you, let alone upgrade / anti bricking feature..lol) then they should be right in their executive decision, Its just a pity that not all bluetooth devices & roms are equal

Now had they gone 'wireless' rf route things would of been different (along with maybe more expensive, bigger and maybe other different issues)

we are improving the handshaking on firmware upgrade, at the end it will bulletproof, i was told by users failed on firmware upgrade, that's because during upgrade their bluetooth suddenly lost packet even a single bit of data ... with the handshaking in place, we can stop the mcu from update and user can try again until complete with single glitch.
trust me, we have tested the firmware upgrade with our beta testers for few month without any glitch reported ... but on production is a different story !

 

[speedict]

tell you more old_dave ... if we have combo version, iphone and android, however iphone doesn't support OTG !

 

[Old_Dave]

imagine your speed controller installed on your bike and you need firmware upgrade, how ? and think about rainproof speedict mercury ?

Yes .. I did think about it, that's why I said "they were right"

 

[Old_Dave]

Danny

I'm interested in what ever you have iPhone related for 3gs or 4 .. but why you think I would want usb otg is beyond me

Are we at crossed purposes here ?

 

[speedict]

Danny

I'm interested in what ever you have iPhone related for 3gs or 4 .. but why you think I would want usb otg is beyond me

Are we at crossed purposes here ?

not you, i just want to answer jackhandy about otg approach !

only support iphone 4s onward because bluetooth version 4, or low energy bluetooth.
apple blocked its bluetooth on iphone 4 3GS from connecting, unless you share profit with them

 

[Old_Dave]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh ... I see

apple blocked its bluetooth on iphone 4 3GS from connecting

but jailbroken devices can have full bluetooth connectivity does that change anything ?

 

[speedict]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh ... I see



but jailbroken devices can have full bluetooth connectivity does that change anything ?

no api available for iphone to device, the only way is to pay license, buy their ic, build a dock with bluetooth and connect to iphone, apply for MFI "made for ipod" certificate !

even you can jailbreak to make it, but we won't be able to list on apple store !