Speedict Support

speedict

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Apr 23, 2012
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by the way both price are different too


Mercury RRP - Eur 95
Mars RRP - Eur 75
 

jackhandy

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May 20, 2012
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Hi Danny,

I want to use an older android 2.1 'phone exclusively as a speedict mercury display/controller; the bluetooth is OK, but the wifi on it has packed up.

Can I download an .apk file for the mercury client from anywhere, to my notebook, so I can use a usb cable to transfer it to the 'phone?
 

speedict

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Apr 23, 2012
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Hi Danny,

I want to use an older android 2.1 'phone exclusively as a speedict mercury display/controller; the bluetooth is OK, but the wifi on it has packed up.

Can I download an .apk file for the mercury client from anywhere, to my notebook, so I can use a usb cable to transfer it to the 'phone?
wait a moment, i can upload it to 4shared.com
 

speedict

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wurly

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Aug 2, 2008
501
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Yeovil, Somerset
Hi Danny
I downloaded the s/w, it's activated and i'm up and running. Live feed is showing temp, battery voltage, and speed.
I have tried to set up the 'throttle mode' function.
Port 1 speed sensor
Port 2 throttle i/p
port 3 temp sensor
port 4 throttle o/p
I can set the 'lowest and highest throttle point' and have been monitoring signal voltages. All seems well (motor runs up to max speed etc ), but when i save the settings to the speedict, it appears that port 4 no longer shows any signal volts and throttle doesn't work. If you look at the photo, i have the port status showing on the phone and i'm measuring 1.77 volts. I would expect the throttle signal to appear on port4. I have checked my wiring, if i disconnect the throttle cables to the speedict and join the throttle directly......controller/throttle works ok.
I thought it could be motor soft start or motor gain etc, but i i've tried various settings and probably confused myself now. Can you give me some known default settings that will give me a basic setup.
thanks.
 
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speedict

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Apr 23, 2012
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Hong Kong
www.speedict.com
Hi Danny
I downloaded the s/w, it's activated and i'm up and running. Live feed is showing temp, battery voltage, and speed.
I have tried to set up the 'throttle mode' function.
Port 1 speed sensor
Port 2 throttle i/p
port 3 temp sensor
port 4 throttle o/p
I can set the 'lowest and highest throttle point' and have been monitoring signal voltages. All seems well (motor runs up to max speed etc ), but when i save the settings to the speedict, it appears that port 4 no longer shows any signal volts and throttle doesn't work. If you look at the photo, i have the port status showing on the phone and i'm measuring 1.77 volts. I would expect the throttle signal to appear on port4. I have checked my wiring, if i disconnect the throttle cables to the speedict and join the throttle directly......controller/throttle works ok.
I thought it could be motor soft start or motor gain etc, but i i've tried various settings and probably confused myself now. Can you give me some known default settings that will give me a basic setup.
thanks.
very good diagnostic , now confirmed port 4, port 3 working, port 1 don't care, and the rest is port 2.
can you send your port status report to me ? keep all your wires connected, while recording all port signals please apply throttle because we can see if your port 2 can receive or react to your twist-grip throttle, then send the report to me.
per your photo, the port 2 1.776v ? how about you apply throttle ? because 1.7v is not low, or can you double check the port 2 wire ?
 

jerrysimon

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Aug 27, 2009
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Yay mine just turned up :D

I must have just missed the Christmas post though to be honest it would have been an unwelcomed distraction with all that went on over the festive period.

Regards

Jerry
 

morphix

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Oct 24, 2010
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Yay mine just turned up :D

I must have just missed the Christmas post though to be honest it would have been an unwelcomed distraction with all that went on over the festive period.

Regards

Jerry
Is this your first one Jerry? It's amazing how tiny the thing is eh. You could probably fit them inside a controller or motor even!
 

wurly

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Aug 2, 2008
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Yeovil, Somerset
I know what you mean Jerry, i have tried to get mine working inbetween all that. Now i have resumed babysitting grandson and fixing washing machine. My ebike is all disconnected and outside again. I'll get back to you Danny.
 

morphix

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Oct 24, 2010
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I know what you mean Jerry, i have tried to get mine working inbetween all that. Now i have resumed babysitting grandson and fixing washing machine. My ebike is all disconnected and outside again. I'll get back to you Danny.
I'm watching with interest your posts Wurly as I'll have to install mine when my freewheel eventually turns up and Catsnapper builds my wheel up. Perhaps we can write a simple "quick start guide" made sticky, as it look like there's quite a bit involved in installing (and using) this product and once someone has done it, it will be easier for others. There's no doubt a few do's and dont's we'll figure out along the way.
 

jackhandy

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May 20, 2012
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wait a moment, i can upload it to 4shared.com
Thanks for that, Danny - installed fine - Only problem now, it won't authorise the software, as it's not connected to wifi.

I'm not too concerned, as I'm running it on my galaxy note anyway.
 

morphix

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Oct 24, 2010
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Thanks for that, Danny - installed fine - Only problem now, it won't authorise the software, as it's not connected to wifi.

I'm not too concerned, as I'm running it on my galaxy note anyway.
Jack does the Speedict support WiFi as well as Bluetooth? I thought it was only BT?

I noticed it has a USB port, which I assume is primarily for transferring data logs to PC but also updating firmware? Do you know whether data logs can be transferred via BT to a PC?
 

speedict

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Apr 23, 2012
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Thanks for that, Danny - installed fine - Only problem now, it won't authorise the software, as it's not connected to wifi.

I'm not too concerned, as I'm running it on my galaxy note anyway.
not even 3G network ? if you really want to run it on your phone, please let me know !
 

jackhandy

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May 20, 2012
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I downloaded the Mercury app from Google play, and connected the phone with the Mercury device. On a quick look at the voltage in live view I think I will have to calibrate the setup; but its Christmas Day, so I think I will have to get back to the cooking!

Merry Christmas to all Cheers!

Chris
Hi Chris,

For what it's worth, my speedict is reading the battery voltage as 0.25 volts lower than my cheapo wattmeter.
 

speedict

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Apr 23, 2012
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Hi Chris,

For what it's worth, my speedict is reading the battery voltage as 0.25 volts lower than my cheapo wattmeter.

we calibrate speedict before ship, the problem is where can we find reference voltage, so if you want to re-calibrate, please do make sure use your fully charged battery as reference, at least we can trust the battery charger :)
 

jackhandy

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May 20, 2012
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the Cornish Alps
Jack does the Speedict support WiFi as well as Bluetooth? I thought it was only BT?

I noticed it has a USB port, which I assume is primarily for transferring data logs to PC but also updating firmware? Do you know whether data logs can be transferred via BT to a PC?
I know less than you, Paul :p

The problem I had was that I wanted to run mercury on an oldish android phone that has lost its wifi: I've managed to download the app, with Danny's help, but it apparently needs wifi to aurhorise the software.
I'm going to run it on the galaxy note for now, not wanting to introduce too many variables at once. When I'm more familiar with it I'll start getting cleverer :rolleyes:
 

speedict

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Apr 23, 2012
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I know less than you, Paul :p

The problem I had was that I wanted to run mercury on an oldish android phone that has lost its wifi: I've managed to download the app, with Danny's help, but it apparently needs wifi to aurhorise the software.
I'm going to run it on the galaxy note for now, not wanting to introduce too many variables at once. When I'm more familiar with it I'll start getting cleverer :rolleyes:

on version 1 eBike, we have usb mainly for data / log transfer to windows pc client and firmware upgrade, because of windows 64 bits driver issue (we hate to play the digital certificate for 64 bit driver), so we stop development on windows pc client.

on version 2 mercury or Mars, you can download / transfer / synchronize log and display chart on android, imagine if you have 10" tablet you can access your chart anywhere.
firmware can now be done via android phone don't need usb and windows pc.

next step we need to allow user to upload their log directly from android to our cloud server, store there and they can download back to their pc, if users agreed we can also share their logs as community concept let them communicate with other users with shared bike data.

see this log stored on our server ...

Web.Log
 

speedict

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Apr 23, 2012
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i don't like the usb port, if we can eliminate the usb port we are likely to put the speedict mercury inside a box for rain proof :)
 

morphix

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Oct 24, 2010
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I know less than you, Paul :p

The problem I had was that I wanted to run mercury on an oldish android phone that has lost its wifi: I've managed to download the app, with Danny's help, but it apparently needs wifi to aurhorise the software.
I'm going to run it on the galaxy note for now, not wanting to introduce too many variables at once. When I'm more familiar with it I'll start getting cleverer :rolleyes:
Ahh I see. I guess some people may buy cheap dedicated android phones second hand off eBay or perhaps one of the cheap Chinese tablets to mount on bike.. I'm thinking about doing that myself rather than using my beloved HTC Desire phone..I've not had any luck finding a secure mounting solution and neither am I very confident about using a DIY setup incase it falls off ;-)
 

morphix

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Oct 24, 2010
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Worcestershire
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i don't like the usb port, if we can eliminate the usb port we are likely to put the speedict mercury inside a box for rain proof :)
That's a good idea! Nearly everything has WiFi or BT these days and with BT USB dongles available so cheaply on eBay even a desktop PC can have BT support to speak to the speedict ;-)