Shwalbe Tyre problem

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True. But it doesn't identify it as a Scwhalbe production issue either. Any tyre can suffer damage through fair wear and tear or accidental damage during it's lifetime.

The explanation I suppose is that it's quite possible, as with the misfortune of experiencing a puncture, that you've just been unlucky. Otherwise there'd be more reports of this type of thing being reported I reckon. But not so unlucky that the tyre hasn't given you 1200 miles of good, safe use thus far. :)
Wow 1200 miles! so I suppose if you went out and bought something that didn't come up to your expectations you would go out and buy the same again!!?
 
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Yeah... Kenda (among many others) make puncture proof bicycle tyres too. It's not an exclusive "Schwalbe" feature.
Can you show me some? I've never seen anything that comes close to Schwalbe.
 
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"As a global player, Continental also maintains high-tech production facilities outside of Germany, where Continental tyres are produced for you with an equal degree of care and dedication. One thing all Continental bicycle tyres have in common is that they are developed in the technology center in Korbach, Germany, where they also undergo strict inspection."
Your argument is what exactly? Continental make car tyres and vehicle instrumentation (ex-Siemens VDO) for Mercedes and BMW among many others... but bicycle tyres are (according to their own website - and my Mum, who really does live just down the road from the actual factory in Cologne) made in Germany.
 

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Can you show me some? I've never seen anything that comes close to Schwalbe.
Yes - The Kenda Kourier fitted to my own e-bike come in a K-Shield puncture proof/resistant variant, which I considered. But my normal Kourier version hasn't yet had a puncture, so I await that possibility of maybe changing/upgrading them.
 

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Your argument is what exactly? Continental make car tyres and vehicle instrumentation (ex-Siemens VDO) for Mercedes and BMW among many others... but bicycle tyres are (according to their own website - and my Mum, who really does live just down the road from the actual factory in Cologne) made in Germany.
That snippet (above) came from the bike tyre page on their web site.

I have had sets of Continental car tyres and had a couple of very nasty accidents (involving loss of grip) which probably makes me more inclined to buy Michelin now. And of course: "The passenger tire plant in Clairoix, France, will be shut down by the end of March 2010, affecting 1,120 employees. According to Continental, the Clairoix plant has the highest production costs of any passenger tire factory in Europe. Last year, the plant produced 8.7 millions tires, generating a €28 million profit."
 
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That snippet came from the bike tyre page on their web site.

I have had sets of Continental car tyres and had a couple of very nasty accidents (involving loss of grip) which probably makes me more inclined to buy Michelin now. And of course: "The passenger tire plant in Clairoix, France, will be shut down by the end of March 2010, affecting 1,120 employees. According to Continental, the Clairoix plant has the highest production costs of any passenger tire factory in Europe. Last year, the plant produced 8.7 millions tires, generating a €28 million profit."
If this was from the bike tyre page why is it talking about car tyres??
 
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That snippet came from the bike tyre page on their web site.

I have had sets of Continental car tyres and had a couple of very nasty accidents (involving loss of grip) which probably makes me more inclined to buy Michelin now. And of course: "The passenger tire plant in Clairoix, France, will be shut down by the end of March 2010, affecting 1,120 employees. According to Continental, the Clairoix plant has the highest production costs of any passenger tire factory in Europe. Last year, the plant produced 8.7 millions tires, generating a €28 million profit."
You calling my Mum a liar? Right... jackets off, and around the back for a punch-up!

Seriously, it says quite clearly on their website which of their bike tyres are made in Germany. Are you seriously suggesting that a bike tyre called "Der Kaiser" is made in France?

No-one but a German would have the nerve after WWII.
 
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No, I love your mum I just don't trust Continental any more.
 

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You calling my Mum a liar? Right... jackets off, and around the back for a punch-up!

Seriously, it says quite clearly on their website which of their bike tyres are made in Germany. Are you seriously suggesting that a bike tyre called "Der Kaiser" is made in France?

No-one but a German would have the nerve after WWII.
You calling my Mum a liar? Right... jackets off, and around the back for a punch-up!

Seriously, it says quite clearly on their website which of their bike tyres are made in Germany. Are you seriously suggesting that a bike tyre called "Der Kaiser" is made in France?

No-one but a German would have the nerve after WWII.
I used to work for BMW and we had plants all over the world to meet demand and costs and still most people believe they are all made in Germany but quality control in some countries was impossible to meet BMW standards, my Continentals tyres are definately built in Germany http://conti-tyres.co.uk/commuting-touring/top-contact-ii
 
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I used to work for BMW and we had plants all over the world to meet demand and costs and still most people believe they are all made in Germany but quality control in some countries was impossible to meet BMW standards, my Continentals tyres are definately built in Germany http://conti-tyres.co.uk/commuting-touring/top-contact-ii
Half the parts on my own Mercedes appear (from the imprint on the actual parts) to actually be made in Mexico. But if people here want to delude themselves that their Indonesian-made tat branded as Schwalbe are German made just to justify the price they paid for them, so be it... who am I to argue?
 
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Half the parts on my own Mercedes appear (from the imprint on the actual parts) to actually be made in Mexico. But if people here want to delude themselves that their Indonesian-made tat branded as Schwalbe are German made just to justify the price they paid for them, so be it... who am I to argue?
Well I won't be repurchasing a brand that has let me down like this so its back to my trusty Conti's!
 
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Well I won't be repurchasing a brand that has let me down like this so its back to my trusty Conti's!
I personally think that's a wise choice. I changed my inner tubes to Continental (Schrader valve - on offer at Halfords) from Kenda (Dunlop valve), and maybe it's those Continental tubes coupled with my Kenda tyres that's helped with longevity/puncture free riding thus far - despite the sometimes very rough canal/railway paths and back-roads I often cycle.

I certainly wouldn't be swayed by the hype that seems to surround Schwalbe as a brand.
 
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I personally think that's a wise choice. I changed my inner tubes to Continental (Schrader valve - on offer at Halfords) from Kenda (Dunlop valve), and maybe it's those Continental tubes coupled with my Kenda tyres that's helped with longevity/puncture free riding thus far - despite the sometimes very rough canal/railway paths and back-roads I often cycle.

I certainly wouldn't be swayed by the hype that seems to surround Schwalbe as a brand.
Their Schrader valves are still stainless as unlike some of the others, like you I have done several canals and several coast to coast routes but will have a look at the Kenda tyres defo won't be buying Shwalbe again!
 
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Can you show me some? I've never seen anything that comes close to Schwalbe.
Yes - The Kenda Kourier fitted to my own e-bike come in a K-Shield puncture proof/resistant variant, which I considered. But my normal Kourier version hasn't yet had a puncture, so I await that possibility of maybe changing/upgrading them.
Not wishing to appear a smart-arse (which I inevitably will), but Kenda I now discover actually offer no less than 16 levels of puncture protection (have I got that right?):

http://bicycle.kendatire.com/en-us/tire-tech/casing-technology/

Eat crap Schwalbe.

And eat humble pie d8veh!

(flecc will no doubt flag d8vehs response as an agree, however d8veh replies :rolleyes:).
 
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(flecc will no doubt flag d8vehs response as an agree, however d8veh replies :rolleyes:).
What an arrogant response, inaccurate too. d8veh and I have had a number of disagreements.

I agreed on the Schwalbe Marathon Plus post from my two decades of experience with those tyres on three different bikes covering thousands of miles. During that I had a single slow puncture with an MP, my fault by foolishly riding over piles of cut blackthorn. During that same period I had more punctures than I can remember on two trailer wheels which had a size not made in MPs, and a bike front wheel on which I was using up a couple of Maxxis tyres.

This thread and the bigotry displayed has been amusing me. Schwalbe invented those thick underlay tyres which by common agreement are were puncture resistant than any other. Not wanting to be outdone, Continental later almost exactly copied the design for one of their commuting tyres, only changing the colour of the thick underlay.
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What an arrogant response, inaccurate too. d8veh and I have had a number of disagreements.

I agreed on the Schwalbe Marathon Plus post from my two decades of experience with those tyres on three different bikes covering thousands of miles. During that I had a single slow puncture with an MP, my fault by foolishly riding over piles of cut blackthorn. During that same period I had more punctures than I can remember on two trailer wheels which had a size not made in MPs, and a bike front wheel on which I was using up a couple of Maxxis tyres.

This thread and the bigotry displayed has been amusing me. Schwalbe invented those thick underlay tyres which by common agreement are were puncture resistant than any other. Not wanting to be outdone, Continental later almost exactly copied the design for one of their commuting tyres, only changing the colour of the thick underlay.
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Clearly you missed the :rolleyes:.
 
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What an arrogant response, inaccurate too. d8veh and I have had a number of disagreements.

I agreed on the Schwalbe Marathon Plus post from my two decades of experience with those tyres on three different bikes covering thousands of miles. During that I had a single slow puncture with an MP, my fault by foolishly riding over piles of cut blackthorn. During that same period I had more punctures than I can remember on two trailer wheels which had a size not made in MPs, and a bike front wheel on which I was using up a couple of Maxxis tyres.

This thread and the bigotry displayed has been amusing me. Schwalbe invented those thick underlay tyres which by common agreement are were puncture resistant than any other. Not wanting to be outdone, Continental later almost exactly copied the design for one of their commuting tyres, only changing the colour of the thick underlay.
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If you read back through the thread the bigotry was mainly started by one individual whom I tasked about his rudeness on several occasions, because of this things sidetracked but the route cause is still that the tyres have failed in such a short period/mileage
 

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If you read back through the thread the bigotry was mainly started by one individual whom I tasked about his rudeness on several occasions, because of this things sidetracked but the route cause is still that the tyres have failed in such a short period/mileage[
 

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