Shwalbe Tyre problem

[anotherkiwi]

Going out on a limb here because we don't know if the "fault" is on the same side of the bike:

- I agree with d8veh's theory of bad instalation
- if the two different types of tyre have the fault on the same side regular rubbing when parking or tyres exposed to direct sunlight when parked?

I have given you the reasons so just forget it pal you are obviously just out for an argument

No I am not. Tyre and brake problems are important for us all. Our life depends on them. I called you out on an anti-Schwalbe rant when the important is finding the cause of your problem. Is the internal structure of the tyre exposed? From the photos I wouldn't be so worried they don't look deformed or in a critical state.

 

[10JP]

Would you accept them being replaced, like for like? You could try asking them and see what they come back with. Maybe they'll see your point, if you outline your background, and make you a more acceptable offer than an explanation.

I am going back to Continentals which never gave me any problems whatsoever

 

[anotherkiwi]

I am going back to Continentals which never gave me any problems whatsoever

Fine. I thought you might be a Continental tyre salesman

 

[LeighPing]

Conclusion



From the outside, the Schwalbe Energizer Plus and Schwalbe Marathon look like different tires, but on the inside, they appear to be almost the same. In the rolling resistance test, both tires perform exactly the same when compensating for the slightly higher weight of my sample of the Energizer Plus. It does seem like the Energizer has slightly less tread depth and is a little thinner in both the tread area and sidewalls. Of course, this could also be the result of production tolerances.


Pricing of the Energizer Plus seems to be in line with the Marathon (read review). I think it would be safe for long-time Marathon users to try the Energizer Plus and see how the Energizer rubber compares to the Marathon rubber. Have you tried both tires? Consider to leave a comment as I'm curious to your opinion.

RATING: 5 / 5
VERDICT: Highly Recommended

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/tour-reviews/schwalbe-energizer-plus-2015

 

[Deleted member 4366]

A bike rack could cause that sort of problem too - on a car or where you parked your bike.

 

[10JP]

A bike rack could cause that sort of problem too - on a car or where you parked your bike.

Thank you, the most sensible possible explanation so far!!

I have traveled all over the country on the train with my bike to cycle mainly coast to coast routes and the trains are not always bike friendly.

 

[LeighPing]

A bike rack could cause that sort of problem too - on a car or where you parked your bike.

Thank you, the most sensible possible explanation so far!!

I have traveled all over the country on the train with my bike to cycle mainly coast to coast routes and the trains are not always bike friendly.

So it could be 'self inflicted' damage then?

 

[10JP]

So it could be 'self inflicted' damage then?

'COULD' being the operative word be self/train inflicted but that still doesn't explain why it hasn't happened to any other brand of the many tyres Iv'e had over the many years of cycling/train transporting Iv'e done

 

[LeighPing]

'COULD' being the operative word be self/train inflicted but that still doesn't explain why it hasn't happened to any other brand of the many tyres Iv'e had over the many years of cycling/train transporting Iv'e done

True. But it doesn't identify it as a Scwhalbe production issue either. Any tyre can suffer damage through fair wear and tear or accidental damage during it's lifetime.

The explanation I suppose is that it's quite possible, as with the misfortune of experiencing a puncture, that you've just been unlucky. Otherwise there'd be more reports of this type of thing being reported I reckon. But not so unlucky that the tyre hasn't given you 1200 miles of good, safe use thus far.

 

[cyclebuddy]

I don't wish to flame this argument, but I don't know why people get so turned-on about Schwalbe tyres. The company may sound German (and thus impart an air of that German-made superiority), but their tyres are actually knocked out in a run-of-the-mill Indonesian factory, itself part-owned by some unknown (by most) Korean brand.

I'm definitely with the OP on this one: Continental bicycle tyres are genuinely made in a German factory by Germans in Cologne, and I've still got the original Continental tyres on my (admittedly quite low mileage) 20-year old "normal" Marin bike... and still in perfect condition.

Personally, if my tyres are going to be made in a far-east sweat-shop like Schwalbe tyres are, I'd prefer not to pay German-made prices. My Kenda Kourier tyres fitted as standard on my own e-bike don't pretend to be anything but what they are, and are holding up very well indeed.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

I don't wish to flame this argument, but I don't know why people get so turned-on about Schwalbe tyres. The company may sound German (and thus impart an air of that German-made superiority), but their tyres are actually knocked out in a run-of-the-mill Indonesian factory, itself part-owned by some unknown (by most) Korean brand.

I'm definitely with the OP on this one: Continental bicycle tyres are genuinely made in a German factory by Germans in Cologne, and I've still got the original Continental tyres on my (admittedly quite low mileage) 20-year old "normal" Marin bike... and still in perfect condition.

Personally, if my tyres are going to be made in a far-east sweat-shop like Schwalbe tyres are, I'd prefer not to pay German-made prices. My Kenda Kourier tyres fitted as standard on my own e-bike don't pretend to be anything but what they are, and are holding up very well indeed.

It's because they're puncture proof. Can you tell us another tyre that comes close?

 

[cyclebuddy]

Yeah... Kenda (among many others) make puncture proof bicycle tyres too. It's not an exclusive "Schwalbe" feature.

 

[anotherkiwi]

I don't wish to flame this argument, but I don't know why people get so turned-on about Schwalbe tyres.

Because they make good quality, comfortable tyres in the sizes I need.

I don't care much about the brand on the tyre as long as it does the job I ask it to. I am currently running 5 Big Bens in 3 different sizes and have nothing but good things to say about them. I wouldn't be seen dead with a Marathon Plus on my bike, there are much better tyres from Michelin that are puncture resistant and sticky.

Does that answer your question?

 

[cyclebuddy]

Because they make good quality, comfortable tyres in the sizes I need.

I don't care much about the brand on the tyre as long as it does the job I ask it to. I am currently running 5 Big Bens in 3 different sizes and have nothing but good things to say about them. I wouldn't be seen dead with a Marathon Plus on my bike, there are much better tyres from Michelin that are puncture resistant and sticky.

Does that answer your question?

I agree wholeheartedly. A lot of companies make tyres that are good quality and comfortable (and puncture proof). Schwalbe don't have exclusivity. The question was in part rhetorical.

 

[anotherkiwi]

Their force is they make the specialized types and sizes some of us need - they don't steer away from smaller niche markets. Find me a wide tyre in 24" and 20" size from a decent brand name company for example.

 

[cyclebuddy]

Their force is they make the specialized types and sizes some of us need - they don't steer away from smaller niche markets. Find me a wide tyre in 24" and 20" size from a decent brand name company for example.

Yes, for sure... Schwalbe make some odd sizes... like Brompton tyres. But most e-bikes need normal and not "weird" sizes.

Prompted by d8veh's retort about other tyres seemingly lacking puncture protection, and just checking Continental Tyres own website now, Continental actually make some 50 e-bike specific bicycle tyre types, and ALL feature normal or a high level of puncture protection. At least they're actually German!

https://www.continental-tires.com/bicycle/tyres

 

[anotherkiwi]

Ahem...

"Schwalbe is the brand. Bohle is the company.
Owned by the family Bohle since its establishment in 1922, the company is now being managed by the third generation.

Schwalbe international.
Headquarters in Germany, subsidiaries in France, Great Britain, Italy, the Netherlands and USA/Canada. Distributors in over 40 countries. Production partnership with the Korean tyre manufacturer, Hung-A, production in Indonesia."

 

[10JP]

Yes, for sure... Schwalbe make some odd sizes... like Brompton tyres. But most e-bikes need normal and not "weird" sizes.

Prompted by d8veh's retort about other tyres seemingly lacking puncture protection, and just checking Continental Tyres own website now, Continental actually make some 50 e-bike specific bicycle tyre types, and ALL feature normal or a high level of puncture protection. At least they're actually German!

https://www.continental-tires.com/bicycle/tyres

I totally agree cyclebuddy and NO tyre is puncture proof, resistant maybe but I had punctures with the Shwalbe tyres and in the end I fitted kevlar bands in them, give me Continental any day!

 

[cyclebuddy]

Ahem...

"Schwalbe is the brand. Bohle is the company.
Owned by the family Bohle since its establishment in 1922, the company is now being managed by the third generation.

Schwalbe international.
Headquarters in Germany, subsidiaries in France, Great Britain, Italy, the Netherlands and USA/Canada. Distributors in over 40 countries. Production partnership with the Korean tyre manufacturer, Hung-A, production in Indonesia."

Ahem what exactly?

What part of "manufacturing is carried out in its Indonesian factory, which is coowned, with its Korean joint-venture, production partner, PT Hung-A." don't you understand?

 

[anotherkiwi]

"As a global player, Continental also maintains high-tech production facilities outside of Germany, where Continental tyres are produced for you with an equal degree of care and dedication. One thing all Continental bicycle tyres have in common is that they are developed in the technology center in Korbach, Germany, where they also undergo strict inspection."