Sadiq Khan's cargo and e-bike plan now that ULEZ has expanded to all London boroughs

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The only problem preventing their use for Amazon, Post Office, Tescos, etc is that there is no infrastructure. They'd have to implement that first, which is relatively expensive. If they , the government and interested parties got their heads together and made a standard system that could be used by all, I'm sure they could do it,
it's the essence of how our brains work. Suck it and see.
But it's not possible to have a standard system. How would a self drive vehicle deliver here? Many of our pavements in this hilly estate have intermittent staircases, often long. Even at my home, one of many flats like it, the approach to the front door of the block is another set of stairs up from the pavement. And how does the self drive vehicle enter the front door and go up staircases to the flats on upper floors?

This is the factor missed by the advocates of self drive deliveries, that we have a society where couples go to work and deliveries are so often to empty homes with nobody to receive them. Delivery drivers can solve that problem, self drive vehicles can't.

There are better and simpler solutions, some already here but not realised. One is the trend to get the customer to play a part in the delivery in various ways, an example being the big growth in Click and Collect and the like. Another is many couriers no longer repeating a failed delivery, instead dropping the item at a retail collect point for the customer to collect.

This is an example of what I meant when I forecast going backwards to make progress. Originally we all did our own shopping, collecting everything, but then with internet shopping we got lazy getting everything delivered to our doors. Now increasingly customers are part of the delivery process in a collection stage, Guerney mentioning it too, and I see that greatly increasing. It's a variant on how we now so often check ourselves out in supermarkets, assistantless automation. That future with us playing a part works, driverless deliveries doesn't, both for the reasons mentioned and innumerable others.
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Elon Musk has a droid called Optimus.
There are other droids that can climb, jump, play ping-pong etc
 

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Some of these councils could save themselves by lowering the speed limit in residential areas to 15.5mph and issuing mass automatic fines.


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our council is worse than useless was meant to have a new bath room fitted 7 years ago and still waiting house over the road has been empty for over a year now fkn joke lol.
 

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our council is worse than useless was meant to have a new bath room fitted 7 years ago and still waiting house over the road has been empty for over a year now fkn joke lol.
Councils have to keep a percentage of properties empty in case of asteroid strikes, alien invasions, and temporary storage of wild excess dead Covid bodies.
 

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if we under pay the rent like 10 quid there out in there cars hand delivering the eviction notice it cost more in petrol and wages for 10 bloody quid :rolleyes:
 

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How do they deliver there at the moment? whatever it is, it can be automated.
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A crowbar won't be enough to intercept deliveries - plan for the future, make a microwave cannon:


 

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How do they deliver there at the moment? whatever it is, it can be automated.
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With a driver leaving his vehicle and completing all the later stages, which cannot be automated at any feasible cost.

No point in arguing about it, just watch it not happen.

It was back in early 2018, as Woosh may remember, when an automation Guru's lecture attracted much appreciation and agreement in here. I just said he was an a idiot.

His prediction was that every Tesla model in 2019 would have full self drive capability and none of them in 2020 would have any controls for a driver to use.

As I said, an idiot.
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he said we will have a base on mars buy 2028 o_O
 

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Worst subway pollution Anywhere!
Another triumph for the Khan 't seem to get anything right. :)
It's you who can't get anything right, the so called whistle blowers haven't revealed anything. London's underground has had the worst pollution problem for many decades, long before Sadiq Khan held any London office. That's simply because of it's age and historic tunnel designs making cleaning and air conditioning so difficult to modernise.
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Yes, "Trial and Error" is the essence of the scientific method.
Carbon Zero doesn't work, coz Carbon means life, right so, onto a better idea, hehe. :)
Carbon is easy money for now until either molten salt thorium reactors or fusion become mainstream.
 

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Carbon is easy money for now until either molten salt thorium reactors or fusion become mainstream.
True.

But let's see. South Korea took 4 years to build each one of their 21 PWRs. They hold the world record for building one in just two years.

We have just one PWR which took us a staggering 14 years to build.

So at that sort of pace we may achieve an experimental molten salt thorium reactor by about 2080.

But fusion?

No chance, confusion more likely with our governance.
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