Road sense

[burncycle]

Being new to cycling frequently in traffic now, I researched some cycling tips.
On a few sites I have read they use the term "undertakers, go to the undertakers", meaning its a very dangerous thing to do. Though I dont see a way around this. Are you supposed to overtake to get to the front of a line of car to a crossing or wait in the line of traffic?

Hope someone cam help me in this matter.

Regards Bob

 

[flecc]

On a bike in the UK, I'd say stick to the left when going to the front Bob. Car drivers just don't expect bikes to pass on the right and could easily not see a cyclist doing that.

They don't always see them on the left of course, but at least when they do it's not unexpected and they usually are prepared to make allowances for that.

But as ever on a bike, doubly careful with every move, always expecting someone to do the wrong thing and ready to counter.
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[burncycle]

On a bike in the UK, I'd say stick to the left when going to the front Bob. Car drivers just don't expect bikes to pass on the right and could easily not see a cyclist doing that.

They don't always see them on the left of course, but at least when they do it's not unexpected and they usually are prepared to make allowances for that.

But as ever on a bike, doubly careful with every move, always expecting someone to do the wrong thing and ready to counter.
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Thanks flecc,
Yes I would always move through traffic in that situation like im carrying eggs in my hands.
PS Took the bike out for a 8miles 1000 feet accent test last night and its much, much better now than before.
Also the battery is now primed for daily charges.

Regards Bob

 

[poppy]

Thanks flecc,
Yes I would always move through traffic in that situation like im carrying eggs in my hands.
PS Took the bike out for a 8miles 1000 feet accent test last night and its much, much better now than before.
Also the battery is now primed for daily charges.

Regards Bob

Hi Bob, I´m Poppy.
What bike have you got?
How did you prime the battery? Fully charged it and discharged it, then charge it to the top no matter its capacity as Grand Master Flecc advises?

 

[BGElect]

Undertaking works for me...

Hi Bob,

I'm not a seasoned cyclist but I have just started to ride into work from Waterloo in London. Undertaking is the way to go and in London many of the junctions have cycle lanes and safe areas at the front of the junction to help this happen. Overtaking has to happen to get around busses in bus lanes, the key aspect is awareness and being prepared to take command of the road, it can sometimes feel like I've completed an urban assault course but I'm improving...

Cheers,
Brian

 

[moon]

no matter its capacity as Grand Master Flecc advises?

hehe...on his wheels of steel

 

[flecc]

Definitely not me, though a less painful way of hitting the "deck" than in cycling.
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[burncycle]

Hi Bob, I´m Poppy.
What bike have you got?
How did you prime the battery? Fully charged it and discharged it, then charge it to the top no matter its capacity as Grand Master Flecc advises?

Hi Poppy,
Ive got a Pro-Connect.
Yes Ive given it 2 full charge and discharges, so its ready for normal use now from tonight for my commute to work (6mile and 500feet accent).
I managed it last week at 23mins.

 

[Terrytraveller]

Comment from a Glen Miller & Berekly Busby Fan

I think I would rather fall off my bike, than listen to the music from that deck

 

[stokepa31_mk2]

Hi Poppy,
Ive got a Pro-Connect.
Yes Ive given it 2 full charge and discharges, so its ready for normal use now from tonight for my commute to work (6mile and 500feet accent).
I managed it last week at 23mins.

I forgot to ask Bob. What does that 500ft accent sound like

Sorry, could'nt resist

 

[burncycle]

I forgot to ask Bob. What does that 500ft accent sound like

Sorry, could'nt resist

Sorry Paul.
regular typing error.
Correction ascend.

 

[HarryB]

Sorry to add a serious note on undertaking. I have seen two very near misses with cyclists undertaking lorries (and one hit). Never, ever undertake a lorry unless it is stationary in traffic and is not going anywhere, i.e. blocked in. With the two times I saw near misses, both times they undertook at a left hand turning, both times the lorry turned left without indicating and narrowly missed hitting them. Both times they berated the driver (shortly followed by me berating them). The third incident I saw the result of undertaking - the cyclist trapped under the wheels of a tipper truck. Put me off my journey. Follow this simple rule and you will be much safer.

 

[poppy]

Hi Poppy,
Ive got a Pro-Connect.
Yes Ive given it 2 full charge and discharges, so its ready for normal use now from tonight for my commute to work (6mile and 500feet accent).
I managed it last week at 23mins.

Can you change rears, with motor on or off, while on standstill? While in motion, must you change gears while pedalling?
Have you done any range/hill testing?
You may want to look up the recent A to B Connect review on the official site of 50 cycles.

 

[flecc]

It's a hub gear Poppy, so the general rules are to pause pedalling when changing gear, and that pauses the motor automatically on the Pro Connect.

Hub gears can be changed when standing still.

You'll see that the A to B review also advises pausing when changing gear, as I did in my Agattu review. The advice from Shimano that one can pedal while changing gear is bad advice, though it does wonderful things for their spares and replacement sales!
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[oldosc]

Sorry to add a serious note on undertaking. I have seen two very near misses with cyclists undertaking lorries (and one hit). Never, ever undertake a lorry unless it is stationary in traffic and is not going anywhere, i.e. blocked in. With the two times I saw near misses, both times they undertook at a left hand turning, both times the lorry turned left without indicating and narrowly missed hitting them. Both times they berated the driver (shortly followed by me berating them). The third incident I saw the result of undertaking - the cyclist trapped under the wheels of a tipper truck. Put me off my journey. Follow this simple rule and you will be much safer.

Ive got an AGATTU..AND a Silverado
(well we have me n' J) We also have a Fiat skateboard (sceiento) and a 2.5 LITRE motor home (20 years old).we cycle for pleasure only, and feel much for those who do it for commuting...I am no mimsy..but as an adult I am appaled at the attedude of the British to Cyclists..I have heard comments 'vermin', cause congestion,slow, us all up,get the F**K off..(my reply to that has caused me to refuse two police cautions..no comeback) With the exception of Greece) our EU compadres seem to have accepted the fact that people on two wheels are still human.and indeed welcome..I treat all moterists in England as mostly hostile entities, and behave acordingly.
I add a caveat (sic) Since cycling in Cornwall despite influk of many Emmits I have been treated with amazing respect.

 

[poppy]

It's a hub gear Poppy, so the general rules are to pause pedalling when changing gear, and that pauses the motor automatically on the Pro Connect.

Hub gears can be changed when standing still.

You'll see that the A to B review also advises pausing when changing gear, as I did in my Agattu review. The advice from Shimano that one can pedal while changing gear is bad advice, though it does wonderful things for their spares and replacement sales!
.

I stand corrected, Flecc. it won´t be the last time!

 

[Tiberius]

I add a caveat (sic) Since cycling in Cornwall despite influk of many Emmits I have been treated with amazing respect.

Ooh arr, not heard that word for a while. I grew up in Dorset and over the border here in Somerset its a different language

from
World Wide Words: Emmet and grockle
"The word emmet actually means an ant"
And therefore an "emmet butt" is an ant hill.

For the rest of the world, this will explain the line in one of the Yetties' songs

"Tis pleasant to sit amidst the thunder and the hail,
with your girlfriend on an emmet butt and hear the sweet nightingale"

Nick

 

[oldosc]

Ooh arr, not heard that word for a while. I grew up in Dorset and over the border here in Somerset its a different language

from
World Wide Words: Emmet and grockle
"The word emmet actually means an ant"
And therefore an "emmet butt" is an ant hill.

For the rest of the world, this will explain the line in one of the Yetties' songs

"Tis pleasant to sit amidst the thunder and the hail,
with your girlfriend on an emmet butt and hear the sweet nightingale"

Nick

Hi bein bit older, don know them yetties was awy in van diemans land wen them was about, but do kno
old cyder song...
T'aint pleasant courtin in the rain n' hail
cause if yer sits(lays) er on a emmit butt
by chr**t she do wail

 

[BGElect]

Well I say...

All I can say on the matter is:

When I'm in the car I hate white vans;
When I'm on my motorbike I hate volvo drivers;
When I'm cycling I hate black cabs and pedestrians;
When I'm a pedestrian I hate everybody, especially the fat chap sat next to me on the train.

Funny how working in London for 6 months conditions your mental attitude no end...

 

[burncycle]

Can you change rears, with motor on or off, while on standstill? While in motion, must you change gears while pedalling?
Have you done any range/hill testing?
You may want to look up the recent A to B Connect review on the official site of 50 cycles.

OK Poppy.
You can change all the gears with or without the motor. You can change at a standstill and all other situations.
The gears really are very adaptable all in all.
As for range and hill testing, the battery is just primed, so I really carnt comment too well yet!
As for hills I live in sheffield, which is hill after hill, after hill.
I'll tell you now this bike can really climb hills.
No problems with 1 in 10's and 1 in 8's.
Not tried a 1in 6 yet though. I'll have to get a bit fitter first Poppy!

Hope this answers your questions.

Regards Bob