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soundwave

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yet he is a billionaire never started any wars soon as bindo got in they scrapped the wall to let in millions of migrants and fentanyl ect gave billions to Ukraine in a pointless war for profit and also giving billions to israil for more green bombs for profit and why there debt can never be paid off the 80 year cycle Ponzi scam has ended with a bang.

and it was all planned years ago just everyone is so thick and stupid to even see what they are doing like drones in the jcp signing there life away to 3rd party providers for profit then wonder why there working full time as a slave in a charity shop haha :D

no matter who wins the usa is fooked and we are not far behind its only a matter of time b4 it all goes kaboom.



they not got enough dead ppl this time round there just going to have to blow him up :eek:
 
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soon as bindo got in they scrapped the wall
do you know how much wall Trump built? The USA has a 2000 mile long Southern border.
Trump completed 15 lousy miles of new wall.
He is pretty useless on every front. No wonder why he does not want people to get the facts.

 
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a wall is pointless when the agenda is to let as many migrants in to the country as possible to steal the election and dump them in republic states and if that fails its time for civil war and will be blamed on trump.

everything the democrat's say trump is going to do there doing it already with lawfair there traitors and should be shot.

there even flying them in with no passports giving them places to live and thousands a month can commit crime and get away with it but thats the real news for you.

and land mines are cheaper.
 

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cant have that telling the truth about everything can they, you get thrown in prison next for tweeting, oh yeah.

Since February 2022, the United States has allocated $113.4 billion in emergency funding to support Ukraine in wartime.


 
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Not removing dead people from the electoral roll is indicative of incompetence and /or laziness among public servants, or the negligent failure of relatives to notify the authorities of deaths. It does not of itself indicate an electoral conspiracy. If these identities are misused - it can only be on a tiny scale.

For this matter to be a conspiracy, it would need to be taken advantage of with nefarious intent - either by individual family members, or by a cabal of public officials arranging for criminals to impersonate the dead. For this to happen on any scale that could affect the outcome of an election, it would need massive organisation and total secrecy. I dread to imagine what draconian sentence in the USA such a conspiracy would bring if uncovered, and uncovered it would be - for sure. Also, who is to say that such criminality would only be used by one side and not the other?

My bet is that this is just another boring, MAGA ruse to create public distrust in the election, or perhaps a plot got up by the Russian troll factory in St Petersburg . Either way - the story is intended to con the stupid or the mad, with the aim of bringing democratic institutions into disrepute. Of course - this is a thing that Trump has done repeatedly.

Trump is the greatest liar that has ever presented himself as a candidate in any democratic state that I have heard of. He barely opens his mouth EVER without a bare faced lie coming out of it within thirty seconds.

I say this as a person with no fondness for the candidate that is standing against him and as a person who is not in any way a natural supporter of the Democratic Party. In that, I am like Dick Cheny - the one time VP of G W Bush - a staunch Republican, a man like many other Republicans who have come out against Trump as a wholly unworthy and disreputable candidate. Cheny and his daughter the one time senator, recently suggested that people should vote for Harris.

When very prominent Republicans like them stand out and say they will not vote for Trump, and when people who were key figures in his previous administration are denouncing Trump as wholly unfit for office on grounds of character and competence, you must know he is a dangerous individual.
The governing officials have been under pressure to sort out the election lists since they cheated last time. Why would someone have to sue them to do it 4 years later?
 

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Maybe the "unusual" voting pattern was *too* obvious.
Like "It's true that Wisconsin's voter rolls include about 120,000 voters who are listed as having registered more than a century ago" USA today. ;)
 

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There is nothing suspicious in spikes of votes going one way or the other. You should take a course in probability and statistics. A great deal of statistical science is dedicated to separating out random effects from significant trends.

That chart is from a different election than the current one. The dates make no sense. They mention Nov 4th. Today's date is 22/10/24
 

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it is if you have a water leak and cover up the windows to pump more votes in the machines and that was in all the states they all shot up like that pmsl.

we all live in a corporation we are all slaves to there system and are expendable for profit.
 

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There is nothing suspicious in spikes of votes going one way or the other. You should take a course in probability and statistics. A great deal of statistical science is dedicated to separating out random effects from significant trends.

That chart is from a different election than the current one. The dates make no sense. They mention Nov 4th. Today's date is 22/10/24
That the last election, when the dems sent in truckloads of votes from all the dead people still on the voter register. The trucks were followed and videod by self-appointed anti-cheat invigilators. I can't remember the exact story, but it went something like this: The trucks' journey started at a dem's local HQ, went to a printing company to make the pickups, then on to the vote counting centre through a back gate late at night. IIRC, the local sheriff was involved somehow.

Then there was the leak that wasn't, where somebody reported that the counting house had a leak and was about to flood, so everyone had to leave the building. All the envigilators were forced out. Many hours later, everyone was allowed back in, and there was no sign of any leak. The internal video showed those remaining dragged big suitcases of votes out from under the tables and started counting them. The tables had big black tablecloths on them that went all the way to the floor. All of this was fact-checked by all the usual fact-checking organisations, and they concluded that there was nothing wrong. Those people in the video don't look too wet to me, neither do they seem bothered about imminent demise through drowning, but I'm not qualified to fact-check that.
 
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Maybe the "unusual" voting pattern was *too* obvious.
Like "It's true that Wisconsin's voter rolls include about 120,000 voters who are listed as having registered more than a century ago" USA today. ;)
Mail in votes are counted after walk in votes on the day. The spike is probably from mail in votes. Dems get about 30% more in mail in, reps get about 20% more on the day. Just habits. Both have been subjected ro checks before counting.
 

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That the last election, when the dems sent in truckloads of votes from all the dead people still on the voter register. The trucks were followed and videod by self-appointed anti-cheat invigilators. I can't remember the exact story, but it went something like this: The trucks' journey started at a dem's local HQ, went to a printing company to make the pickups, then on to the vote counting centre through a back gate late at night. IIRC, the local sheriff was involved somehow.

Then there was the leak that wasn't, where somebody reported that the counting house had a leak and was about to flood, so everyone had to leave the building. All the envigilators were forced out. Many hours later, everyone was allowed back in, and there was no sign of any leak. The internal video showed those remaining dragged big suitcases of votes out from under the tables and started counting them. The tables had big black tablecloths on them that went all the way to the floor. All of this was fact-checked by all the usual fact-checking organisations, and they concluded that there was nothing wrong. Those people in the video don't look too wet to me, neither do they seem bothered about imminent demise through drowning, but I'm not qualified to fact-check that.
That story was tested in court and the plaintiffs reps could not back it up.
The footage posted by End Wokeness was recorded nearly 14 hours after the leak, many hours after it was resolved.
Fact Check: Does CCTV Show 2020 Ballot Stuffing in Georgia?
 

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That the last election, when the dems sent in truckloads of votes from all the dead people still on the voter register. The trucks were followed and videod by self-appointed anti-cheat invigilators. I can't remember the exact story, but it went something like this: The trucks' journey started at a dem's local HQ, went to a printing company to make the pickups, then on to the vote counting centre through a back gate late at night. IIRC, the local sheriff was involved somehow.

Then there was the leak that wasn't, where somebody reported that the counting house had a leak and was about to flood, so everyone had to leave the building. All the envigilators were forced out. Many hours later, everyone was allowed back in, and there was no sign of any leak. The internal video showed those remaining dragged big suitcases of votes out from under the tables and started counting them. The tables had big black tablecloths on them that went all the way to the floor. All of this was fact-checked by all the usual fact-checking organisations, and they concluded that there was nothing wrong. Those people in the video don't look too wet to me, neither do they seem bothered about imminent demise through drowning, but I'm not qualified to fact-check that.
I'm very sorry that you have fallen so far down the rabbit hole and that you believe this stuff. It was long ago shown to be a pack of lies.

The problem seems to be that you seem to keep well away from just about any kind of authoritative journalism and news, and instead rely on total garbage collected by random loons. We have discussed a variety of incredible nonsense that you believe (unless you are winding me up - in which case you got me). One of them was a video in which an obvious junk pedlar was asserting that the Challenger disaster was a deliberate fake and that he had found one of the supposedly dead astronauts. He was bothering some guy outside his house and the 'evidence' was that this chap had similar teeth and a vague resemblance to one of the astronauts. It was absolute b ollox and the presenter was ab obvious fraudster making a tonne of money out of his eager following on Youtube - sad to say one of which was me that day. On another occasion you were suggesting to me that the moon landings were faked because they could not have sent TV pictures back here at that time - COMPLETE rubbish - presumably got from some conspiracy lunatic.

Unless you use fact checked news and information, you are going to be fed a vast heap of dung.

I can't understand how you fell into this madness, and I am sorry you did.

I am a solid conservative in terms of my politics (in spite of my disgust at the incompetence of the last governments) but every single day I scan through the Guardian to see what they are saying and thinking. Now and then, I read a really good piece in there, although often I get rather cross at what I see there. The point is - unless you seriously examine all sides in a discussion, you are not likely to make good decisions. Take an engineering example - how good an engineer would you be if you only examined half of the possible solutions to a mechanical issue?
 

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It's much easier to fool someone than convince them they've been fooled
It's a bit like religion. People get very committed, even though the evidence is absent, and if people are part of an online community, its a bit like going to church for a top up of devotion. When I was a kid, I was brought up in a devoted religious family. My old man told me that it was a sin to allow doubts to run in my mind.... He was really deep down the rabbit hole, even though he meant well.
 

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When will it end for Boeing?

Boeing made satellite breaks up in orbit.


I would be pretty reluctant to get on a Boeing plane. I reckon it might be safer to drive to my destination on my motorbike.
 

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I'm very sorry that you have fallen so far down the rabbit hole and that you believe this stuff. It was long ago shown to be a pack of lies.

The problem seems to be that you seem to keep well away from just about any kind of authoritative journalism and news, and instead rely on total garbage collected by random loons. We have discussed a variety of incredible nonsense that you believe (unless you are winding me up - in which case you got me). One of them was a video in which an obvious junk pedlar was asserting that the Challenger disaster was a deliberate fake and that he had found one of the supposedly dead astronauts. He was bothering some guy outside his house and the 'evidence' was that this chap had similar teeth and a vague resemblance to one of the astronauts. It was absolute b ollox and the presenter was ab obvious fraudster making a tonne of money out of his eager following on Youtube - sad to say one of which was me that day. On another occasion you were suggesting to me that the moon landings were faked because they could not have sent TV pictures back here at that time - COMPLETE rubbish - presumably got from some conspiracy lunatic.

Unless you use fact checked news and information, you are going to be fed a vast heap of dung.

I can't understand how you fell into this madness, and I am sorry you did.

I am a solid conservative in terms of my politics (in spite of my disgust at the incompetence of the last governments) but every single day I scan through the Guardian to see what they are saying and thinking. Now and then, I read a really good piece in there, although often I get rather cross at what I see there. The point is - unless you seriously examine all sides in a discussion, you are not likely to make good decisions. Take an engineering example - how good an engineer would you be if you only examined half of the possible solutions to a mechanical issue?
 

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That story was tested in court and the plaintiffs reps could not back it up.
The footage posted by End Wokeness was recorded nearly 14 hours after the leak, many hours after it was resolved.
Fact Check: Does CCTV Show 2020 Ballot Stuffing in Georgia?
Look with your own eyes and ask yourself what you see. There's a vote counting house, where there are none of the normal observers, which ties up with them having been sent out because of the leak, in which case, why are those people still there? People are pulling shopping trolleys out from under weird tablecloths. They take votes out of the trolleys and start processing them, with no observers about. Does that seem normal to you?
 

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Look with your own eyes and ask yourself what you see. There's a vote counting house, where there are none of the normal observers, which ties up with them having been sent out because of the leak, in which case, why are those people still there? People are pulling shopping trolleys out from under weird tablecloths. They take votes out of the trolleys and start processing them, with no observers about. Does that seem normal to you?
there are plenty of videos showing and explaining exactly what really happened, not the reps version. I tried not to make those reps who made that video looking like they are cheats. If you want, I'll post them here. That video did not hold up to examination in court. It's simple enough for the reps to prove that the video is not edited.
 

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It is interesting that you post a link to Ian Carrol's X account. I was just listening to a podcast on the BBC about him. He is an interesting character. Gabriel Gatehouse gives him a lot of cover in Episode 6, Series 2 of his excellent 'The Coming Storm:


I tried to put you onto it about five weeks ago in a PM, but you refused to look at it because it was on the BBC and you had to set up an account.

I don't use or like 'X', but I registered so I could for example, look at links like yours. It's not my thing at all, but I follow such links as yours about those perverts Abercrombie and Fitch ex-CEO, Mike Jeffries and his pal. I take the view that if you are going to discuss with people, you can't do it while refusing to engage with what they think and where they get information. That's why I also read the Guardian.

That episode I link to gives Ian Carrol a detailed examination, and lots of coverage for his views. I say again - you should listen to that link. That whole series - in fact both of them (series 1 and series 2) cover EXACTLY what you are interested in regarding who controls the world. It is probably the most detailed account you will ever find about that stuff and it is fair. The sources get to say their piece - fully and without distortion.
 
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