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Vacuum of Space to Decay Sooner Than Expected (but Still Not Soon)
One of the quantum fields that fills the universe is special because its default value seems poised to eventually change, changing everything.
 
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The Global Temperature Just Went Bump

We’re just sticking a toe into the climatic realm of the last interglacial period, not living in it—yet.

 
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Mercury has a layer of diamond 10 miles thick, NASA spacecraft finds

NASA's MESSENGER mission has revealed that Mercury, the solar system's tiniest planet and the closest to the sun, hides a big secret.

"A major question that I have about Mercury's evolution is why the major phase of volcanism lasted only a few hundred million years, much shorter than other rocky planets. This must mean that the planet cooled down very fast," Namur said. "This is partly related to the small size of the planet, but we are now working with physicists to try to understand if a diamond layer could have contributed to very fast heat removal, therefore terminating major volcanism very early."

 
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the same as the fire chief, who said "we've been told that it was a diesel" about the car that burnt down the Luton Airport carpark, when he knew exactly what it was.
Again this persistent lie. It was definitely a diesel, not a hybrid or a pure electric. We know exactly which car and the owner who tried to deal with the fire, which started as he was driving it. We have witnesses to the rivers of burning fuel running along the floor spreading the fire to other cars

In fact the car park operators supplied the registration of every car in the car park at the time to the Motor Insurers Bureau, making it possible to determine which electric vehicles were there at the time.
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Again this persistent lie. It was definitely a diesel, not a hybrid or a pure electric. We know exactly which car and the owner who tried to deal with the fire, which started as he was driving it. We have witnesses to the rivers of burning fuel running along the floor spreading the fire to other cars

In fact the car park operators supplied the registration of every car in the car park at the time to the Motor Insurers Bureau, making it possible to determine which electric vehicles were there at the time.
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What was the registration then?

The fire was flaring out from under the front wheel arch with a whitish flame. Diesel or anything else on a Landrover doesn't burn like that. We've been through all this before. That's the location of the hybrid battery and probably the 12v battery too. It was a lithium battery that was burning.
 
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Was the first burning car a land-rover hybrid?
 

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Was the first burning car a land-rover hybrid?
It was a Landrover. Only the Fire department knows what model. The fact that they wouldn't say tells you everything. Ask yourself why they had to use weazle words instead of just saying what it was. It's true that they were told it was a diesel, just like I have been told by Flecc, but they knew exactly what it was, so they could and should have said what it was. Any sensible person looking at the fire can see that it was a lithium battery fire of some type. Draw you own conclusions unless you're one of those intelligent affluent people that believes what they read in The Guardian or BBC.
 

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It was a Landrover. Only the Fire department knows what model. The fact that they wouldn't say tells you everything. Ask yourself why they had to use weazle words instead of just saying what it was. It's true that they were told it was a diesel, just like I have been told by Flecc, but they knew exactly what it was, so they could and should have said what it was. Any sensible person looking at the fire can see that it was a lithium battery fire of some type. Draw you own conclusions unless you're one of those intelligent affluent people that believes what they read in The Guardian or BBC.
I keep a LiPo pack for jump-starting purposes in my petrol powered vehicle at all times. How does that affect your reasoning? What about petrol or diesel vehicles that use a Li based 12v starter battery? None of these examples make the vehicle a 'hybrid'. 'Diesel Land Rover' might've been an entirely accurate description.
 

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What was the registration then?

The fire was flaring out from under the front wheel arch with a whitish flame. Diesel or anything else on a Landrover doesn't burn like that. We've been through all this before. That's the location of the hybrid battery and probably the 12v battery too. It was a lithium battery that was burning.
You made the mistake of saying too much by also implicating the Liverpool car park fire, saying that was an electric Range Rover, when there was no such thing in existence at the time. That too was a diesel only.

Yes, electric cars can catch fire, but far less often than petrol and diesel cars. The only reason BE cars get so much attention is because their fires are so difficult to extinguish on the rare occasions they do happen.

When they do happen nobody tries to hush them up, least of all the Fire Brigades. So why would they only on these occasions? Judging by their completely opposite reporting on e-bike fires and large battery charging stations also burning down buildings, they'd surely publicise in the same way with e-cars.

There's a large army of petrol heads who are desperately trying to stop the switch to electric with these constant false accusations, but they and you are wasting your time.

For a variety of reasons, some of them much more political than environmental, it's happening and you won't stop it.
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You made the mistake of saying too much by also implicating the Liverpool car park fire, saying that was an electric Range Rover, when there was no such thing in existence at the time. That too was a diesel only.

Yes, electric cars can catch fire, but far less often than petrol and diesel cars. The only reason BE cars get so much attention is because their fires are so difficult to extinguish on the rare occasions they do happen.

When they do happen nobody tries to hush them up, least of all the Fire Brigades. So why would they only on these occasions? Judging by their completely opposite reporting on e-bike fires and large battery charging stations also burning down buildings, they'd surely publicise in the same way with e-cars.

There's a large army of petrol heads who are desperately trying to stop the switch to electric with these constant false accusations, but they and you are wasting your time.

For a variety of reasons, some of them much more political than environmental, it's happening and you won't stop it.
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It was a Landrover. Only the Fire department knows what model. The fact that they wouldn't say tells you everything. Ask yourself why they had to use weazle words instead of just saying what it was. It's true that they were told it was a diesel, just like I have been told by Flecc, but they knew exactly what it was, so they could and should have said what it was. Any sensible person looking at the fire can see that it was a lithium battery fire of some type. Draw you own conclusions unless you're one of those intelligent affluent people that believes what they read in The Guardian or BBC.
there is a footage on the BBC website showing the first burning car.
The rear lights were visibly on.
It was burning for about 2 minutes before the fire spread.
I assume that the number plate of the burning car is already known to a lot of people.

What caused the Luton Airport fire and what happens next? - BBC News
 
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stock markets rose sharply after the Obamas endorsed Kamala Harris.
 

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They won't find it if they don't look, but they clearly didn't look very hard. It went through Trump's ear into the guy in the stand behind.Thye might find it in the local hospital, assuming that they've got it out by now:

They'll find a pristine "magic" bullet on the stretcher, like JFK and Bobby! :cool:
('Bread and circuses'. Red sock puppet vs Blue sock puppet. Ignore the false left vs right dichotomy)
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there is a footage on the BBC website showing the first burning car.
The rear lights were visibly on.
It was burning for about 2 minutes before the fire spread.
I assume that the number plate of the burning car is already known to a lot of people.

What caused the Luton Airport fire and what happens next? - BBC News
You can hear the pressurised gasses wooshing out of the battery and all the cells popping. Does that sound like a diesel fire to you?

"We could hear explosions as well and were worried about things flying off, like bits of shrapnel."
When a car burns, you get one big bang when each tyre goes. What you hear in the video is nothing like that, and what the witness described is more like a lithium battery going up.

It is thought the fire started with a diesel-powered vehicle "and then that fire has quickly and rapidly spread", said Andrew Hopkinson, Bedfordshire's chief fire officer.

They know exactly what it was. they have the reg and arrested the driver!

"But at that moment when we came to the car, it exploded and we couldn't come near."

Diesel cars don't explode. they burn slowly.
 
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