My new (standard variable ) tariff from EDF is 29.60p per kwh and no change in standing charge at 53.96 per day. That's paying monthly by direct debitwhat is the kw price of electric from edf as had letter today and says on a deemed tariff and says 52.86p a kwh cash cheque
Prices of the electricity we use to charge
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Quite possibly since I'm electricity only, but Oxygen stated that MY costs would reduce by 17%, adding that this was a personalised breakdown. Here's a screenshot of their communication:
Sub-£5 monthly saving per household on £13.5B energy reduction project
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Watchdog says delayed smart meter roll out has way to go yet
Sub-£5 monthly saving per household on £13.5B energy reduction project
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The delay doesn't matter anyway, the whole scheme was doomed from the outset due to our pathetic mobile phone coverage, used by our smart meters. Despite being in a London Borough, none our our smart meters work since we have no coverage in most of our properties.Sub-£5 monthly saving per household on £13.5B energy reduction project
Watchdog says delayed smart meter roll out has way to go yet
Sub-£5 monthly saving per household on £13.5B energy reduction project
The energy companies are well aware of this, which is why most are all well set up to routinely regularly use customer meter readings.
Ireland was far more sensible, their smart meter scheme was set up to use multiple ways to operate, including satellite coms.
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Standing charge (per day) 59.058p > 59.058p Elecy no change on STD charge
Unit rate (per kWh) 31.210p > 28.210p
Circa 9.5%
Standing charge (per day) 36.150p > 36.150p GAS no change on STD charge
Unit rate (per kWh) 10.490p > 7.050p
Circa 32.5%
Mine will include a leveller to direct debit prices saving about £50 per year for prepayment.
I feel a little hoodwinked, even though I cautioned many a post ago about the infinite money hack, if we can't pay the tax payer will. I fear the "supply & demand" will come back with vengeance near winter, are we not now importing gas via tanker from the US?
With the UK 50 basis points the FED will have to stump theirs up to sure up the currency[USD] other wise commodities with be too cheap ie Nat GAS. Bear in mind I don't understand any of what I just wrote...
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Costly, perhaps nearby meters mesh network and share?
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My electricity cost me £12,500. I haven't taken any from the grid since the beginning of April, but still have to pay 53.96p per day, partly off-set by the electricity I sell back to them at 5.5p per unit (rip off) - about 10 units a day average. In the depths of winter (4 months), there isn't enough sunshine to generate anything meaningful, so I still pay the 53.96p per day plus around £1 a day for electricity used above what's generated.
That means total cost per year is about £197 per year standing charge plus £120 electricity used minus £100 for electricity sold back, say net £200 compared with total cost of £1000 per year before. The saving is therefore £800 per year.
That's a 12 panel 5kw system with roughly 10kwh batteries and 5kw inverter/charger. If I did it again, I'd go for a 7kw inverter because the panels make more than 5kw, but the inverter limits it. The LiFePO4 batteries are 52v so could be used on an ebike project if I decide to upgrade.
So there's some real word data if anyone is considering doing the same. My roof is the perfect south facing, but it's quite shallow; however, the panels are exceptionally good at capturing the light and they're quite efficient (22%). Make sure that you get decent panels.
To make your own calculation more simple, I can tell you that I've generated 2448 units since the end of January, so it's going to be roughly 5000 units per year. That's now worth about £1500 if you use it all. I'm an extremely light user at around 2800 units per year because I live on my own. A family or high use couple would need bigger batteries - maybe 12kwh.
That means total cost per year is about £197 per year standing charge plus £120 electricity used minus £100 for electricity sold back, say net £200 compared with total cost of £1000 per year before. The saving is therefore £800 per year.
That's a 12 panel 5kw system with roughly 10kwh batteries and 5kw inverter/charger. If I did it again, I'd go for a 7kw inverter because the panels make more than 5kw, but the inverter limits it. The LiFePO4 batteries are 52v so could be used on an ebike project if I decide to upgrade.
So there's some real word data if anyone is considering doing the same. My roof is the perfect south facing, but it's quite shallow; however, the panels are exceptionally good at capturing the light and they're quite efficient (22%). Make sure that you get decent panels.
To make your own calculation more simple, I can tell you that I've generated 2448 units since the end of January, so it's going to be roughly 5000 units per year. That's now worth about £1500 if you use it all. I'm an extremely light user at around 2800 units per year because I live on my own. A family or high use couple would need bigger batteries - maybe 12kwh.
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I look forwad to seeing that - are the cells this form factor?
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It'll be ruthlessly bludgeoned to death in small windowless rooms with greater resources wielded by well established players, before the status quo can be swiss cheesed/house of cards toppled out of existence.Or lack of growth...
These batteries put ebike ones to shame. They look nice on your living room wall too - according to the picture, though mine are hidden in the broom cupboard. 10 years warranty. can you imagine getting that for an ebike one.
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Member Danidl there in Ireland told me they are using the whole mix of methods, including satellite where necessary.
When EDF installed a smart meter here, despite my telling them it wouldn't work, they confidently said they would get it to work, using mesh network etc. Three months later after many attempts, they wrote to me apologising for being unable to get it working, so it's just another couple of pieces of electronic waste.
Oddly enough something is communicating with it since from time to time it switches to the latest reading with face lit up. But it's not EDF, Bulb or Octopus, the three I've been with since it was installed, and it has never paired with the remote readout unit, even when they're placed side by side.
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There's no practical reason why they can't get such a mesh network working, if lamposts exist nearby - a friend of mine tried to provide the whole of Sri Lanka with internet using a great many meshed off the shelf routers and custom firmware, but the necessary government bribes were too high.
Haven't seen @Danidl of late, has he gone the way of @oyster and abandoned the forum?
He does sometimes have long breaks, his last two posts on May 4th, so almost two months this time. I know both he and his son have severe health problems so I hope those are not involved in the absence.
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Does your one come with all the necessary equipment, permissions and software to connect it to the grid, and would you be happy to mount it on your living room wall to power your house? Is it guaranteed for 10 years? If you have the 5 year 60,000 mile one, you'd need somewhere between two and four to match the Greenlinx one, so you need to adjust your figures a lot if you want to consider a 25 year lifetime.
Yes, I did notice those differences, but I'd struggle to make them match the price discrepancy. Especially now those Nissan batteries are now considered to have up to 12 years car use life and thereafter for storage wall use. I don't know where you get the 5 year 60,000 miles from, presumably some other car make using cylindrical cells similar to 18650s or 21700s.
Economy of scale is the biggest difference, followed by charge and current rates. If it wasn't for those the Nissan example would allow a 500Wh e-bike battery for just over £100 lasting a decade.
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so do i need to ring edf again and get him put on a tariff as he wants a paper bill and pay every 3 months cos cant afford 50p a fkn kwh.
also how do i rewire the inverter power cable in to the consumer unit for the solar panels so in a power cut still have power.?
also how do i rewire the inverter power cable in to the consumer unit for the solar panels so in a power cut still have power.?
If you want to run from an inverter when you have no mains power, you have to put a ground rod in the ground (obviously), and it has to be on a separate circuit, so the best you can do is put a separate socket in and run everything from an extension lead if you didn't pay the bill and get cut off.
That's what I did. It cost about £250 extra for that. Now, whenever there's a power cut, I can still get internet and run my PC and anything else I plug into the extension lead, and only as long as my 9.6kwh batteries have charge in them.
If you know a power cut is coming, you can charge the batteries from the mains rathere than the solar panels if there's no sunshine.
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