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Arrival has departed. A couple of years back, they were valued at $13 billion. Now they've filed for bankruptcy before selling a single van.

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Yes, it was a daft startup at the outset, and not the only would-be newcomer to the EV van and truck business who will fold. The existing commercials companies already had that scene well covered.
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Yes, it was a daft startup at the outset, and not the only would-be newcomer to the EV van and truck business who will fold. The existing commercials companies already had that scene well covered.
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No body wants to buy the electric versions of the Ford, Vauxhall and Peugeot electric vans. You can't do a day's work in them during the winter. The idea of using one is just daft. The car companies have massive incentives to produce them, and their dealers are on massive incentives to sell them, but it's a product nobody wants except for a few niche users. They're going to have to have another think about this or they'll all end up in trouble. It's probably too late. A lot of damage has been done.
 
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No body wants to buy the electric versions of the Ford, Vauxhall and Peugeot electric vans. You can't do a day's work in them during the winter. The idea of using one is just daft.
You're missing the point and so are some who've unwisely bought one. They are high population density city vehicles which are nothing to do with climate change. Their purpose, like e-buses here, is to solve the very real severe air pollution problem.

They have absolutely no problem doing a days work when used how and where they should be, as we prove in my area and many other parts of London. For example the DPD van delivering to me never gets more than 7 miles from its depot in its 8am to circa 5 pm day so its total day's mileage is very low, likewise the others using e-vans like Amazon. When the drivers stop at each point they often do several short walks to complete home drops close to each other, very much like our Postal van drivers do here and why the Royal Mail have over 5000 Peugeot e-vans now for their short range city and large town work.

Even Tesco have found them a success for City grocery deliveries, having 500 city e-vans now and Sainsburys have twelve e-vans at its Nine Elms central London superstore delivering to their 145,000 customers in that zone.

But of course it's a limited market, thousands of vans, not hundreds of thousands, but doing an essential job which nothing else can do.
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and thats the end of that edf kiss my ass :p
 
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In order to protect mRNA molecules from the body’s natural defenses, drug developers must wrap them in a protective casing. For Moderna, that meant putting its Crigler-Najjar therapy in nanoparticles made of lipids. And for its chemists, those nanoparticles created a daunting challenge: Dose too little, and you don’t get enough enzyme to affect the disease; dose too much, and the drug is too toxic for patients.

oh well it made a killing :p
 
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You're missing the point and so are some who've unwisely bought one. They are high population density city vehicles which are nothing to do with climate change. Their purpose, like e-buses here, is to solve the very real severe air pollution problem.

They have absolutely no problem doing a days work when used how and where they should be, as we prove in my area and many other parts of London. For example the DPD van delivering to me never gets more than 7 miles from its depot in its 8am to circa 5 pm day so its total day's mileage is very low, likewise the others using e-vans like Amazon. When the drivers stop at each point they often do several short walks to complete home drops close to each other, very much like our Postal van drivers do here and why the Royal Mail have over 5000 Peugeot e-vans now for their short range city and large town work.

Even Tesco have found them a success for City grocery deliveries, having 500 city e-vans now and Sainsburys have twelve e-vans at its Nine Elms central London superstore delivering to their 145,000 customers in that zone.

But of course it's a limited market, thousands of vans, not hundreds of thousands, but doing an essential job which nothing else can do.
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Did you know that TFL just had their adverts about pollution taken down by Advertising Standars for making false claims about pollution?
 
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Did you know that TFL just had their adverts about pollution taken down by Advertising Standars for making false claims about pollution?
Yes, one false claim, that nitrogen pollution was halved. So only the claimed level of reduction was ruled against, but only the grounds that it was not backed by evidence. The reduction might have been halved, but in any event it was still very real and worthwhile as any such reduction is.

And why do your think advertising standards even looked at it? Because they were set up to by Sadiq Khan's political opposition, any dirty trick will do for them. There will be a lot more of this as we approach the two election times.

Some of the worst false claims are those from the anti EV brigade because they are often backed up by nothing but spite.
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"Zombie fires were once infrequent, but scientists say they have become more common in recent years due to a rapidly warming climate. "


 

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"Zombie fires were once infrequent, but scientists say they have become more common in recent years due to a rapidly warming climate. "
This is Alberta where the crude oil bearing Tar Sands also are. If they catch fire, extinguishing them could be nightmarishly difficult.
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Their critics are right, it's silly fear mongering.

Russia will not attack any NATO country or one like Sweden which is on the brink of accession to NATO. In any case they would have to go though Finland to attack Sweden and Finland is already a full NATO member since last April.
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Russia will not attack any NATO country or one like Sweden
it seems to me that Putin would do anything to cling on to power. He's been there since 1999, 25 years ago, and will likely to remain for at least another 5. Until Putin is gone, the threat is very real. There are ethnic Russians who want to secede hoping that Putin would 'help' them. Besides, I am fed up with Putin constantly threaten the West with unleashing their nuclear weapons on us even when we haven't threatened them with anything.
 
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Apparently solid state lithium batteries are currently hitting problems with 'soft shorts'.
 

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Their critics are right, it's silly fear mongering.

Russia will not attack any NATO country or one like Sweden which is on the brink of accession to NATO. In any case they would have to go though Finland to attack Sweden and Finland is already a full NATO member since last April.
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Apparently solid state lithium batteries are currently hitting problems with 'soft shorts'.
“Just modest indentation, bending or twisting of the batteries can cause nanoscopic fissures in the materials to open and lithium to intrude into the solid electrolyte, causing it to short circuit,”
 
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This is Alberta where the crude oil bearing Tar Sands also are. If they catch fire, extinguishing them could be nightmarishly difficult.
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"Megafires are increasing with climate change, experts say — but could the emissions they pump out change the climate?"
 

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So it's been on *ITV* a year ago and still no action? Any?
Think of the "the very real air pollution problem"!
Has the "dangerously toxic London Underground air pollution problem" been solved either?
It can be done :)
 

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“Just modest indentation, bending or twisting of the batteries can cause nanoscopic fissures in the materials to open and lithium to intrude into the solid electrolyte, causing it to short circuit,”
there are thousands of regular microscopic shorts every seconds when the battery is in use. They are mostly too small to cause a fire but statistically, one never knows if they could or would cause a fire over time.
 

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Still burning 11 months ago, how much pollution? What's Khan't doing about it?
"Used for storing weapons and drugs for ??years". Where were the gov, local authorities and the police? Why did they stay away? Mmm, fishy! :cool:
 
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