Prices of the electricity we use to charge

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because they wont get away with it yet to much kick back atm tho i bet you dont have to pay it if you fly round in a helicopter landing on sky scrapers :p
 

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because they wont get away with it yet to much kick back atm tho i bet you dont have to pay it if you fly round in a helicopter landing on sky scrapers :p
They don't have to pay for it if chauffeur driven in cars either.

I take no notice of these long winded scare videos by those who like the sound of their own voices, since we lost most of our travel freedoms long, long ago. Just look at the freedoms I once enjoyed:

No speed limits on any road other than the 30mph one in built up areas.

A full motorcycle driving licence at 16 years old for any size M/C, without even passing a driving test.

No compulsory crash helmets, few ever used one.

A full car and goods vehicle licence without passing the usual driving test.

No such thing as HGV licences.

Driving very large trucks and heavy transporters at 18 years old.

No breathalysers or intoximeters. Even when they were introduced the limit was over double what it is now.
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i got banned from driving even b4 i was old enough to take a test it was twoc back then and a 50 quid bag of weed for the stereo ;)
 

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Good luck with that. It'll be like heat pumps - works great when it's warm and sunny, but useless when it's snowing and you need some heat, or on a day like today, where it's dark all day.
Fully agree for buildings, but great for cars small cabins, even coping with South Pole conditions.

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Good luck with that. It'll be like heat pumps - works great when it's warm and sunny, but useless when it's snowing and you need some heat, or on a day like today, where it's dark all day.
That's why I wanted a sand battery. To store captured energy for days like today and yesterday.
 
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That's why I wanted a sand battery. To store captured energy for days like today and yesterday.
Where are you going to catch it from? Are you going to build a gravity generator to harness the potential energy of all the fence panels blowing around in the sky?
 
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Where are you going to catch it from? Are you going to build a gravity generator to harness the potential energy of all the fence panels blowing around in the sky?
From gas filled solar tubes. I need to bring the temperature of the sand to around 50 degrees C.
 

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just wait for the icar :p

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they dont sell batts or parts or anything to fix it.

 

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Electric car sales increased even while total car sales dipped by 3% in 2022 relative to 2021. China accounted for nearly 60% of all new electric car registrations globally. For the first time in 2022, China accounted for more than 50% of all the electric cars on the world's roads, a total of 13.8 million.

Strange how they work for them. they have over 200,000 battery electric buses as well.
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Electric car sales increased even while total car sales dipped by 3% in 2022 relative to 2021. China accounted for nearly 60% of all new electric car registrations globally. For the first time in 2022, China accounted for more than 50% of all the electric cars on the world's roads, a total of 13.8 million.

Strange how they work for them. they have over 200,000 battery electric buses as well.
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Don't take any notice of what China is supposed to have done. It's nearly all fake. Most of those cars are presently sitting in fields unused.
 

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tbh i dont think flecc bothers to watch the vids i post because if you have a computer linked to a car that needs to be linked to a server to even work that you dont own it can be turned off at a press of a button.

and china charges all there cars sat in fields with coal powerd electric its all bs :p

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good luck charging up a car with that ;)
 
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Don't take any notice of what China is supposed to have done. It's nearly all fake. Most of those cars are presently sitting in fields unused.
there are plenty of brand new, unsold electric cars in the world but not 13 millions of them in China. The point is in less than 30 years, most cars on the road will be pure electric.

 
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woosh why dont you get in on this scam warranty the bike for 2-3 years then ask for a subscription fee to keep it going for 50 quid a month ;)

you could charge to turn the lights on as well :p
 
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that's a pretty good idea!
 

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and get some custom wheels made say 26.558 and sell the tyres that will only fit on to those wheels 100 quid each.
 
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Don't take any notice of what China is supposed to have done. It's nearly all fake. Most of those cars are presently sitting in fields unused.
Yes there is some fake, but it's nothing like the majority of the figures I gave. Even their economy couldn't stand that.

And the bus numbers are also real, they are all that many Chinese cities are even allowed to buy and use. I know they are viable because the same BYD and similar buses are what we have now, not just in London but spreading into many other British cities now.

Nor is it all Chinese. Here we have Toyota Caetano City buses, both battery and hydrogen fuel cell and our own UK built hydrogen fuel cell Wright buses. For some while in London we have only been buying zero emission buses and they are a fast growing proportion of our 9000 fleet as we scrap all those using diesel, solely or hybrid. And of course there's our own almost a million pure battery cars in Britain, a number growing ever more rapidly month by month.

As much as you might hate it, this is unstoppable.

You guys are funny, clutching at every possible straw in a futile effort to prevent it. You remind me of all those in the 1960s fighting against the growth of supermarkets. They were right in their arguments of course, it really wasnt a good trend and lead to a permanent loss of genuine choice and quality. But they failed to realise that it was going to happen regardless.

We are in a similar position:

Can battery vehicles meet all aspects of what we want as well, as conveniently and as cheaply as IC ones?

The answer is no.

But the demands of the climate change we have helped cause leave us no option, so we will have to cope with the change.

We are in a new age of technical retreat. Rather like we have to put up with twice as long to cross the Atlantic now that Concorde established that new reality. Rather like we can no longer rush as headlong into nuclear power now its intrinsic long term problems are firmly established. Rather like we have hit the barrier of single atom thickness in chip fabrication, so we clutch at the straw of quantum computing. Rather like the way our advances in lifespan have stalled in the last half century as medical science and economics hit unassailable barriers.
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i can rip the hole computer system out of a ev and make it work most cant so in realty you do not own it when a corporation can just turn it off.

just look at the ps5 or xbox you buy a game and download it so you never own that game even my bloody washing machine needs WiFi to :oops: work

tv wont even work unless i have a Samsung account aa,aaa batts are gone so need a new smart remote when that dies 100 quid a pop.

same with printers no ink cant use the scan function print 1000 pages it gets bricked as go get a new one just wait till drm bog paper comes out for ur new i crapper that wont flush if you use the wrong stuff!!

well i can still shite in a bucket
 
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