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As Andybike suggested, I modified the query slightly to add a qualifier here in bold and gave it to ChatGPT. Here is the new query:

Can a person who came from Afghanistan and arrives in a rubber boat from France which is a safe and civilised country, honestly apply for asylum in the UK?

And here is the reply:

Reasoned about asylum application eligibility for 16 seconds
Yes, they can apply for asylum regardless of how they arrived. In the UK, the right to seek asylum is based on an individual’s claim of persecution or danger in their home country—not on the route taken to get there.
Key Points
  • Right to Apply:
    Even if someone enters by an irregular route (such as by rubber boat), they have the legal right to apply for asylum if they can demonstrate a well-founded fear of persecution or harm in Afghanistan.
  • Scrutiny of Entry Route:
    The manner of entry may be considered by immigration authorities. Irregular entry can complicate the process and might affect how the claim is handled, but it does not automatically disqualify the applicant.
  • Safe Third Country Consideration:
    While France is considered a safe and orderly country, the fact that the journey started there does not necessarily preclude an asylum claim in the UK. However, if authorities determine that the applicant could have sought protection in France (a “safe third country”), this might be examined during the processing of the claim.
  • Legal Advice Recommended:
    Given the complexities of asylum law and the potential implications of an irregular entry, it’s crucial for anyone in this situation to seek advice from a qualified immigration lawyer or a trusted refugee support organization.
In summary, yes—a person fleeing Afghanistan can honestly apply for asylum in the UK even if they entered from France via a non-standard route. The ultimate success of the claim will depend on the specifics of their case and their ability to demonstrate a genuine need for protection.
I'm quite fascinated by the potentials of AI as you probably noticed and have been exploring the potential for AI to simulate or acquire conscious experience.


the link seems to dump you at the end of the discussion so scroll to the top to see the start.
 

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Wasn't a certain Liebor gov member sacked for doing her Party business in company time?
Is that fraud or embezzlement?
Should she be charged, and if convicted, removed from office? Mmm :)
 
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I'm quite fascinated by the potentials of AI as you probably noticed and have been exploring the potential for AI to simulate or acquire conscious experience
Matthew Berman just released a yt video explaining how Claude Sonnet 'thinks'. It's much more complicated than most of us imagined how it does 'mental math' or speak a dozen languages or reasoning. Anthropic released a couple of papers recently on the subject. Their own researchers build a kind of digital microscope to detect patterns in their models. They reckon that we will need AI to understand how AIs actually work.
The video is quite dry to watch but made me think about similarities with how my brain works in similar exercises.
 

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Matthew Berman just released a yt video explaining how Claude Sonnet 'thinks'. It's much more complicated than most of us imagined how it does 'mental math' or speak a dozen languages or reasoning. Anthropic released a couple of papers recently on the subject. Their own researchers build a kind of digital microscope to detect patterns in their models. They reckon that we will need AI to understand how AIs actually work.
The video is quite dry to watch but made me think about similarities with how my brain works in similar exercises.
yes - I am interested like you in the parallels between the way we learn and the way AI 'learns'. I put that word in quotes because the two phenomena are different, but have similarities too. The debate about copyright seems on the writer's side to assume that their novels / articles / papers have been plagiarised - copied, stored and poured out by AI. It is nothing like that at all. The training of models involved the text being scraped into the machine, but the text is not stored and NEVER will it be re-produced by the machine. Only the relationships between words and concepts is absorbed and combined with huge amounts of other data. The AI may have 'read' a book, but it only read it and its content became part of the 'knowledge' of the machine, pretty much like your own reading of a book. I don't know about you, but I would have a hard time reading even a paragraph and reciting it back to you word for word. I could certainly tell you what it was about, but I could not recite it without a lot of re-reading and rote learning. When I attempt to tell you what the piece was about, I am actually combining and integrating the new knowledge with my past learning and experience. In the same way, AI's combine their training content and produce output word by word by word, on the basis of the giant vector database inside them which represents how words and concepts fit together. You can see it happening word by word if you try and run local AI models (ie your own ) on your phone. Because the hardware is really over stretched when you try that on a phone, everything slows right down and you see the stutter between words. It is actually computing what the next word should be, with no idea until it finds the next most likely word to print.

This video is very good if you want to understand the nuts and bolts of how transformer models actually work, but it gets a bit mathematical at times.

 

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Wasn't fishface farage also caught up in some sort of embezzled EU funding ?

'Googles'
Ahh yes...
But what I find most surprising is these populists, who always cry about stronger(and more extreme right wing) policing are found in many cases(above+Le Pen) to be running their own corruption games.
When people don't like you, they tend to say bad things about you. The side that owns the press and the mainstream media can write hit pieces on the other side all day long, which is a tactic that's been used for years. These stories are then laundered around using their own biased fact checkers in an attempt to get them established as some sort of truth. Having established in lore that somebody is a bad person, they can then use any authority that they have control of to go through that person's dealings and affairs with a fine tooth comb until they find something to target them with. Most politicians have done something that can be targeted, like fiddled their expenses, shouted at their staff, treated someone badly, flirted with a pretty girl, etc.

The last things you should believe as facts are anything published by the Guardian or BBC.
 

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The training of models involved the text being scraped into the machine, but the text is not stored and NEVER will it be re-produced by the machine.
AI evolves so quickly that it is hard to keep abreast with its progress. In the earlier generations up to about 6 months ago, models use the temperature setting as random seed number for their transformer. Now with reasoning, the same temperature setting may not reproduce the earlier reply. What Claude Sonnet does is to combine the knowledge that it gets from various languages into its own world where languages are replaced by 'concepts' like large, small, etc. The papers I mentioned gave the example of how Claude Sonnet writes poetry like Haiku. The model run several processes concurrently and some combinations come out on top, similarly to the way we play chess for example, you play a lot of what ifs but your minds eye can see which resulting position is best. When you ask it to show reasoning, it has then to translate its thinking into words.
 
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Warning bill rises hit single parents hardest
A series of essential household bills are rising at the start of April, with warnings that single parents are among the hardest hit.
Water bills, energy prices and council tax are all going up on Tuesday

 

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The model run several processes concurrently and some combinations come out on top, similarly to the way we play chess for example, you play a lot of what ifs but your minds eye can see which resulting position is best. When you ask it to show reasoning, it has then to translate its thinking into words.
All of these transformer models do that - run many processes in parallel and understand meaning by working out which processes come out with the highest probability of matching with 'learned' material. The same happens when the model is working out the output to send to the user. Parallel processing is one of the key enablers of AI. The big leaps in progress flowed from a paper written in 2017 by Ashish Vaswamy at Google and others.

 
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Why is my energy bill £19,000 more than firms in London?
A dry cleaner has said businesses just 10 miles away can charge a quarter of the price for services due to differing energy prices between regions.
Small and medium-sized businesses in north Wales and Merseyside are expected to pay 13% more in electricity bills than London from this month due to non-wholesale energy costs known as third-party charges.

 

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Now with reasoning, the same temperature setting may not reproduce the earlier reply. What Claude Sonnet does is to combine the knowledge that it gets from various languages into its own world where languages are replaced by 'concepts' like large, small, etc.
I misssed this remark about 'temperature' earlier Tony. The temperature setting can be varied. On the LLM models that I have downloaded and am running on a pc here in the house, you can adjust that parameter and others.

'Temperature' is about how tightly the model is constrained in its expressiveness - really whether it is limited or not. If you lower the parameter value for temperature' it will restrain its expressiveness and use only the highest value token or word out of the predictive matrix when it is responding. So you will get a more restrained response than if you set the temperature higher, because that adjustment will allow the model to pick from a variety of terms / words and you will get a more creative - perhaps flamboyant response.

There are a lot of parameters you can meddle with. I tend to find that the defaults work best. I have been messing on mine with how many cpu threads the system will press into service. This cpu can run 16 threads and I have found I get the maximum cpu demand - about 95% by setting it so Ollama (which manages and runs the models ) to 13 threads. I think, but don't know for sure that the different threads are used for parallel processing. I believe that they are treated as separate cpus.
 

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so if ai is that good answer these questions.

what come first the chicken or the egg?

how was the pyramids made when we cant even make them today?

what happens if we blow up the moon?

what happens if the sun explodes?

and how long?

what is the meaning of life? control money big buns mass corporate fraud :p

why is our paper money worthless promissory notes backed buy nothing?

why is every government corporation for profit registered on dun and brad street as corporations for profit, uk corporation plc

is the king ie head of state the ceo of this corporation and has no sovereign power as was stripped in 1970

why has my birth cert have a number on it and why are women forced to complete this 2 weeks after crapping you to be a state slave for profit?

why will not the council bill me via invoice for council tax as know its fraud and just demand payment like a parking charge notice.

why are free energy devices for free electric and antigravity banned for patents being granted?

income tax pays for the electric so also a scam fraud for the profit of the corporations.


 

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oh well 25% import fees for all uk cars to usa from today :p
 

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oh well 25% import fees for all uk cars to usa from today :p
I wonder how many countries would ring Trump up and offer him concessions.
What that would do to all the car dealerships in the USA? They may have to sell more used cars from now on.
More worrying is Putin now calling up 165,000 to serve in the army. Since the war started in Ukraine, he has already called up half a million young Russians, used up Wagner Group and convicts.
 

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why is every government corporation for profit registered on dun and brad street as corporations for profit, uk corporation plc
You can't assume because a company has a D&B number, it's for profit. D&B pre-register these companies before they ask, if they ask at all. You don't need to ask them. It's a pretty useless registration anyway, like many free trade directories.