Prices of the electricity we use to charge

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Why do you ask? You know they are the legitimate government of Afghanistan, Afghanistan is a member of the UN, COP is organised by the UN.
 
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More Climate Cobblers
And "they" have the nerve to call others "(just) right (so) far". They've gone full circle from left to ....
like a Mobius strip, there is no Centre!
Who is this "company", anyone looked up their ownership in companies House, mmm, is it Ed? :)
 

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Who is this "company", anyone looked up their ownership in companies House, mmm, is it Ed?
You can look it up at companies House.
The full name is: GREAT BRITISH ENERGY GROUP LIMITED

While you are at it, look up also NESO, which is also owned by the government.
Ed Miliband set it up but the government owns it.

New publicly owned National Energy System Operator to pave the way to a clean energy future - GOV.UK
 

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You can look it up at companies House.
The full name is: GREAT BRITISH ENERGY GROUP LIMITED

While you are at it, look up also NESO, which is also owned by the government.
Ed Miliband set it up but the government owns it.

New publicly owned National Energy System Operator to pave the way to a clean energy future - GOV.UK
So that's wherebthe £22billion quid is disappeared to?
Another "Dead Head Ed" company. Maybe he's better at eating sandwiches than bacon rolls? Is this his new job? Tea & Sandwiches boy? V:)
 

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If you want to do solar power generation. there is a VERY obvious place to put it ... The Sahara Desert This makes the Sahara one of the most exposed places on Earth to the sun's rays.
Bear in mind the Water requirements to just keep the Flaps clean of all that Sahara sand n dust that keeps finding its way around the world onto our shiny cars. Particularly :)
And guard them?
Just wondering :)
 

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So that's wherebthe £22billion quid is disappeared to?

Another "Dead Head Ed" company. Maybe he's better at eating sandwiches than bacon rolls? Is this his new job? Tea & Sandwiches boy? V:)
I really have difficulty figuring out where your hatred of Ed Miliband comes from. Did it matter to you what he eats or doesn't eat?
As for the money, I am not sure how much has been spent but it can't be much until it buys into some commercial projects. GBE is only an investment vehicle like the Norwegian Soverign Fund. Shouldn't we wait for some result at the next budget?
 
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Bear in mind the Water requirements to just keep the Flaps clean of all that Sahara sand n dust that keeps finding its way around the world onto our shiny cars. Particularly :)
And guard them?
Just wondering :)
the production site is by the West coast of Morocco. Half of it will be wind, half solar.
The West coast of Morocco has very consistent wind speed and sunshine records. Water desalination should also be easy enough being by the sea. Recent progress has reduced the cost of desalination a lot.
 
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I can remember from environmental studies at university 50 years ago, they told us about towing icebergs to the Sahara and Arab countries for fresh water. Like your idea, it sounds great until you try it.

Anyway, why would you want to bring electricity all the way from the Sahara, when there are terawatts in the sea all round our country just waiting to be brought in? Have you ever tried sailing in the Bristol Channel or fishing from Southend pier?
Why would i consider bringing solar generated electricity across the Med when wecould use an entirely undeveloped tidal system?

Well, because concentrated solar power works extremely well already; that region has wall to wall sunshine 95% of the time; ultra high voltage dc cables can get that power to rurope with 5% loss, and the solar insolstion id srount 2.5 kw per meter at that latitude.

Now let me think.... where is there a tidal system that can do that? Err.... i don't think there is one - no. Only a few short lived experiments with nodding ducks that break down all the time.

Did you look at the video?

Morrocco and other Saharan states will be the new Saudi. They will be making vast royalties powering Europe.

Tidal power is intermittent, a rough environment, and entirely unready.

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they got new studio and live at 5 on x


well that was a waste of time pmsl :p
 
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the production site is by the West coast of Morocco. Half of it will be wind, half solar.
The West coast of Morocco has very consistent wind speed and sunshine records. Water desalination should also be easy enough being by the sea. Recent progress has reduced the cost of desalination a lot.
The only barrier to almost infinite carbon free power is political instability and the will to invest. The two are intimately entwined of course.
 

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I really have difficulty figuring out where your hatred of Ed Miliband comes from. Did it matter to you what he eats or doesn't eat?
As for the money, I am not sure how much has been spent but it can't be much until it buys into some commercial projects. GBE is only an investment vehicle like the Norwegian Soverign Fund. Shouldn't we wait for some result at the next budget?
What i hate about him is that he fronts up ridiculous bonkers schemes that can not work and in line with all PPE grads, talks and talks as if the ridiculous schemes can work. Power supply is FAR too important to be put in the hands of such an unqualified ar se

The current carbon free generation offering REQUIRES at LEAST 25 Gwatts of gas turbine backup.


I see they are also going to seize local authority pension funds and throw them into the low carbon black hole. Watch that space.
 
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Why would i consider bringing solar generated electricity across the Med when wecould use an entirely undeveloped tidal system?

Well, because concentrated solar power works extremely well already; that region has wall to wall sunshine 95% of the time; ultra high voltage dc cables can get that power to rurope with 5% loss, and the solar insolstion id srount 2.5 kw per meter at that latitude.

Now let me think.... where is there a tidal system that can do that? Err.... i don't think there is one - no. Only a few short lived experiments with nodding ducks that break down all the time.

Did you look at the video?

Morrocco and other Saharan states will be the new Saudi. They will be making vast royalties powering Europe.

Tidal power is intermittent, a rough environment, and entirely unready.

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All the water around our country is moving. In some areas it moves very fast. In the Severn estuary, the tidal rise is about 10 metres, so as well as kinetic energy, it has huge potential energy. All it takes is for someone to extract it, and yes there are tidal energy extraction schemes presently working in the UK. Perhaps you should check before making yourself look silly.

The whole concept of solar energy is to make and use energy in such a way that it doesn't cause global warming, especially the sea. When you bring cables from Africa to UK, you have made a giant space heater, until we have viable superconductors for transmission. To us, it doesn't matter how much energy they can make in the desert, when we can't get it. You might as well point to Bill Gates's bank account as a source of money when you go shopping in Lidl next week.
 
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there washing machines with warp drives :p
 

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The current carbon free generation offering REQUIRES at LEAST 25 Gwatts of gas turbine backup.


I see they are also going to seize local authority pension funds and throw them into the low carbon black hole. Watch that space.
Last year, the world added 447 GW in solar capacity. So replacing 25GW capacity in 10 years for the UK is not far fetch.
On pension reform, rachel reeves intends to merge 86 councils pensions into a few megafunds to invest in the UK only.

That was Sunak's idea if I remember correctly.