Prices of the electricity we use to charge

Ghost1951

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saneagle said:
No, I don't care what you post. I find your posts entertaining and fun while I try to figure out why you don't get it. I love puzzles. You will get it soon, though. Maybe you came to this one late in the game too.
That's a funny thing really, because I have the same feeling about how an obviously bright person such as yourself can believe some of the ideas you have advocated for here. I cite the discussion we had on whether the Challenger Disaster was a real accident, or a NASA plot, and whether the Apollo missions faked the video of Armstrong and Co walking on the moon. Differences in political affiliation are not the same and the choice is about judgement and weighting of information.
 
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Those inverters do seem to fail with alarming regularity.
Making good 220v, 50hz, not as easy as one might think.
I assume this applies to all Solar and Wind requiring Expensive maintenance, repairs and replacement?
I wonder if they factor that into their fake "projections"? ;)
Saneagle's installation is more representative of possible projection. Inverters are not expensive and dead easy to replace. SW's situation is different. He rents his house from the council. With hindsight, the council should not have installed his solar panels. If you involve too many parties in a small installation like his, expect expensive maintenance cost.
Soon, he will own his house and sort out his Inverter.
 

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i have a new inverter i took the old one off the wall and threw it on the landing and said replace it or remove the lot so got a new one but unless you ring them every fkn day and moan at them they do nothing like 3 years to get a new bathroom we could not even use the shower or bath got one now tho.

right to buy form has been accepted today so will get all the discount :D
 

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I unexpectedly ended up buying something from a friend of Farage a few months ago in Manchester, and what surprised me most was hearing the same ideas repeatedly espoused on this thread. They all sing from the same hymn book! By rote! EXACTLY THE SAME! He went out of his way to spit them out one by one. That echo chamber is mighty. Those ideas are well entrenched, but I did attempt to clear up some of his moon landing conspiracy concerns, which I normally don't consider attempting because that's asking for a perpetual game of whackamole, as yet more stories or fragments thereof alert ever more moles, but he was gibbering nonsense and misunderstanding how space works right at me in person. Although he didn't respond badly and some of what I said may have breached his firewall, ultimately it was a futile and complete waste of about an hour, because prior programming will re-emerge the moment he reconnects to his peer group - a phenomenon called "Snapping" in cult expert circles. And he's never going to stop doing that.
 
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would you be ready to vote for a woman potus?
We know Trump is too old, he'll spend his last days on the golf course and nobody is going to blame him.
JD Vance and his billionaire backer, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk will call the shots. So let me rephrase that question: would you vote for Nikki Haley if she was a candidate because the billionaire boys will run the show anyway?
It gets even better. Tulsi gabbard has just been appointed Director of National Intelligence and Matt Gaetz Attorney General. That's going to get the rats running for their lives. The next 12 months is going to be very exciting when they get to the bottom of the Jan 6th "insurrection" and the Russia collusion hoax. They'll probably keep the Epstein and Diddy files locked so that they can use the evidence to control those involved, like the dems did, except it'll be against them, not for them. There's going to be a lot of people, who hated Trump suddenly having a change of mind and saying how great he is.

I'm going to predict they'll go after Pelosi for insider trading because of the part she played in Jan 6th, and Adam shifty Schiff will be the fall guy for the FBI shenanigans.
 
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Im quoting someone else, but wholeheartedly agree with every bit.

"Trump says he’s going to deport 20,000,000 people from the US.
Seems like he’s serious.
I think he’s serious about it, given that the guy he plans to put in charge is pretty damn serious about it.
Of course, a lot of you are still in denial. Oh, c’mon, Jim, he won’t really do that, you tell me.
I saw an interview with a Latino fellow who came here illegally, got the amnesty from Reagan, and supports for Trump because reasons and he’s pretty sure Trump not only won’t deport him, Trump won’t deport all his illegal friends and relatives because they’re “family orientated” and that would be “unfair.”
Donald Trump, a man known for his … fairness.
I think some of you people might be on some really good drugs.
Now, if it was just one guy, you could call him a deluded nut and move on. But it’s not. It’s not just one guy. Latinos went overwhelmingly for Trump and they’re on TV right now telling you why.
Don’t ask me why. I don’t know. I can’t explain it why the chickens decided to vote for Mrs. Tweedy.
I can’t.
But, I think Trump is going to do it.
I think Trump is going to deport 20,000,000 people.
Or least, I think Trump THINKS Trump is going to do it. He’s sure talking like he intends to do it. His supporters sure want him to do it. He’s announcing the Reich Ministers he intends to appoint to his administration and THOSE people sure as hell intend to do it.
Whether or not they’ll succeed, they’re for damn sure going to try.
And I don’t know why anyone, no matter what kind of weed they’re smoking, would believe anything else at this point in history.
So Trump is going to try and deport millions of people.
He’s going to have to build facilities to concentrate the immigrants so they can be “processed.”
He going to need some sort of force to round up millions of people on a national scale, to seek them out, to find them, to arrests them, detain them, and transport them securely to the camps. That’s not just armed goons, that’s organization, command and control, communications, intelligence, supply, logistics, training. That’s a quasi military slash secret police operation with extra judicial powers. There’s no other way to do it.
Those concentration points, those camps let’s call ’em, will need massive infrastructure, to manage and process that population, they’ll need thousands of guards, security systems, transportation systems, and so on. They’ll need people to train the guards and the security personnel, that whole military/law enforcement training apparatus. Drone pilots. Camera operators. Information Technology types. Cooks. Laundry. Supply. Hell, they might even make a pretense of legal review, so you’re going to need lawyers and administrators and doctors and social workers and preachers and so on. We’re talking MILLIONS of deportees, this an enormous undertaking. Several orders magnitude beyond anything tried before.
AND, you’re going to have to secure the border to keep MORE immigrants from getting in, otherwise this is just jerking off and eventually voters are going to figure out they’re getting hoodwinked.
And if you do actually deport these people, well, then you need some sort of downrange process, pilots, aircrew, ground crew, bus drivers, mechanics, fuel, specialized guards for that part of the operation (guy who guards a fence requires way different training and equipage than a guy guarding people on an airplane, for example), you need infrastructure in foreign countries. And so on.
How’s he going to pay for it, you ask?
Who cares?
They’ll find the money. There’s always money to build this sort of thing. Hell, they’ll have an enormous labor pool just sitting there, one they can MAKE work for free — and don’t think some smart guy (cough Stephan Miller cough) won’t figure that out pretty damn fast.
Yeah, they’re going to do it.
Bet on it.
They might only deport a million people, but they’re going to do it.
But here’s the real question: Once he deports those people, then what?
Those concentration camps, that military force used to round up undesirables, and that processing infrastructure will still exist.
So, tell me, what do you think Republicans will do with it? "
 

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Yep -still there. The blocked in high pressure system that has dominated our weather and our power generation for more than a fortnight.

Still very little wind energy. In Woosh and Miliband World - the batteries will need to have many terrawatts of capacity.

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If you want to do solar power generation. there is a VERY obvious place to put it and it isn't in Northern Europe.

Consult the satellite image in the post above.

Google Gemini says the following:

The Sahara Desert receives an average of 2,500 to 3,000 kilowatt-hours per square meter (kWh/m²) of solar energy annually, which is equivalent to around 23 billion terawatt-hours (TWh) of solar energy. This makes the Sahara one of the most exposed places on Earth to the sun's rays.
 

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There is the Xlinks Morocco-UK Power Project . Deep sea cable linking the Sahara to the UK.
Initial costing: £22 billions. Note the ratio between battery and generating capacity.

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1.5 GW of renewable generation, 22.5 GWh of battery storage and a 3.6 GW high-voltage direct current interconnector to carry solar and wind-generated electricity from Morocco to the United Kingdom.
 
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There is the Xlinks Morocco-UK Power Project . Deep sea cable linking the Sahara to the UK.
Initial costing: £22 billions. Note the ratio between battery and generating capacity.

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1.5 GW of renewable generation, 22.5 GWh of battery storage and a 3.6 GW high-voltage direct current interconnector to carry solar and wind-generated electricity from Morocco to the United Kingdom.
I think that something of the sort of the Desertec plan is the real way forward in low carbon electricity. It would require a big investment in undersea cables to get the power into Europe, but ultra high voltage DC is the way to do that.

Desertec failed mostly because of the instability of the North African world (Arab Spring Disaster) which collapsed a variety of governments and allowed terrorists to spread into the vacuum.


 
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We can always work with the EU. Plugging into the EU supergrid. Octopus is for it.
 
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I think that something of the sort of the Desertec plan is the real way forward in low carbon electricity. It would require a big investment in undersea cables to get the power into Europe, but ultra high voltage DC is the way to do that.

Desertec failed mostly because of the instability of the North African world (Arab Spring Disaster) which collapsed a variety of governments and allowed terrorists to spread into the vacuum.


I can remember from environmental studies at university 50 years ago, they told us about towing icebergs to the Sahara and Arab countries for fresh water. Like your idea, it sounds great until you try it.

Anyway, why would you want to bring electricity all the way from the Sahara, when there are terawatts in the sea all round our country just waiting to be brought in? Have you ever tried sailing in the Bristol Channel or fishing from Southend pier?
 
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Anyway, why would you want to bring electricity all the way from the Sahara, when there are terawatts in the sea all round our country just waiting to be brought in? Have you ever tried sailing in the Bristol Channel or fishing from Southend pier?
I suppose the simple answer is we lack the technology to harness the energy from tide and wave.