Prices of the electricity we use to charge

[MikelBikel]

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Greta tries to close Germany's coal mines..
China says, "hold my beer, I'll show you a proper one"!
(Sorry about Ad, but hey ho)

 

[MikelBikel]

"It takes diesel generator 8 hrs to charge an electric mini-digger to do 2 hrs of work".
Think simple maths show it’s 2 steps forward…8 steps back… for a net loss of -6. Not favorable.

Next story was of those West Virginia miners pushing a dead electric car to the mine to also be charged on a diesel generator.
(Can't post link coz 'Salty Cracker' swears so much).

Another electric car owner reported going skiing, but had to leave car for 8hour charge "when it got warm enough for car to accept charging"!

I've just charged my bike battery from mains, probably powered by gas or coal baseload grid, and I hear the grid losses alone are 24%?

 

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[PC2017]

Aye employment scarring, now the water companies want there share of the pie up near 12%, I was surprised the Fed did 25 basis points, he looked like someone was really tugging on them strings, I get the feeling they wanted 50, but the Oligarch's are too busy creaming off the pump n dump cash like taking candy from mom n pops retail investors... I think the BoE wanted the Fed to do 50 so we could do 75, but alas we did 50, Rishi is insistent on halving inflation but even if they do it'll will only be a temp fix until they change the CPI metrics then it'll look fine but get much worse, imo inflation is too entrenched to leave anytime soon & if per se it does return to 2% it'll be over fudged and/or higher prices will have already done lasting damage.

 

[MikelBikel]

Some don't have to worry about energy costs. "Davos jet set emissions more than 1,500 tons of carbon. Equivalent to 1.6million pounds of coal". And exempt from EU "Carbon Tax".
At least the co2 will boost food production around our world now 15% greener than before, hehe

 

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[PC2017]

So out of interest people, if we was to take the EBSS cash (£66/£67) as technical cash we would have to include as we all used it to heat/power our homes, as cash we put in, what is our monthly(31 days) Gas & Elecy use, for lets say Jan 2023?

Mine was £162 for Gas + £162 for Elecy Totalling £325 Average daily use was 2x PC's on low wattage, oven, kettle, boiler, fridge, ebike charging (top-up charge daily), hair dryer(yes I have amazing hair at 42 but alas the other half uses the hair dryer), clothes dryer & phone etc. Heating was on 7-9 hours a day.

 

[Nealh]

My Jan bill (3 bed semi) was a bit excessive for my use Gas was nearly £95 and Elec £62.
Heating is on constant but thermostat controlled, it is set for 15c downstairs and with heat rising upstairs if usually about 18c or I turn it down/off if feeling warm. Mainly it use is mid to late afternoon thru to about 9 a.m to keep my felines comfortable, during the day if chilly heat is supplemented by an open fire.

I can't or don't like the heat to high as it sets off my asthma.

Pond pump 40w odd runs 24/7, two freezers, fridge , tumble dryer/ wash machine and all other usual electrical appliances. I don't like unnatural bright lights so usually just have a table lamp on with 10w eco bulb when dusk sets in.

In the summer/winter curtains are drawn to prevent heat ingress or heat loss, despite having D/G it soon helps to warm or cool a room so summer curtains help to minimise the radiation in and winter helps with heat loss the opposite way.
My biggest cold areas are the double glass panels on the front door and side light into the porch and the rear kitchen door, for these I cover with removable thermal curtains (using velcro fittings) in the winter before dusk and in the summer they go on when the sun moves around.

 

[Nealh]

I have had the heating on more in Jan as I wired in a new more accurate thermostat (Salus brand) replacing the 50 year old (Honeywell one )which tbh wasn't very temp accurate. I'm not one who can sit around with little clothes on as I never feel comfy so tbh 14 -15c feels comfy to me.

Last year from March to December my bills ranged for dual fuel £55 per month to £87 with an average being £70, Jan was fairly cold so heating on a bit more then usual which is to be expected, Nov and early Dec were very mild.

My energy acc is a little in credit so with the current EBSS my Nov fuel D/D was £19, Jan £32 and Feb £22. I don't have a energy meter to get paranoid about and think they are a waste of money providing them.
If I want to know how much a certain piece of equipment or appliance costs to run on an hourly basis I use a plug in watt meter (where one inputs the E unit cost) to calc electricity use/cost.

 

[PC2017]

My dad fixed his prices before this mess started, so please mention if you fixed or not - thanks - Are you on a fix Nealh? because you get great value.

As mentioned in previous posts, I am on prepay & I don't or my pad doesn't feel warm at 20.8 degs, 23 is perfect, 24 hot, maybe it's T1D, bad insulation & roughly installed double glazing. I got a 15 tog duvet & that shaved a quid off my daily gas, as, over night I was freezing which in turn makes me hypo. I wear two fleeces during the day & keep the heating off from 9am-4pm, on for a hour then off till 9pm off at 11pm and staggered from 4am-9am, Kudos for posting, I hope more add their info.

to keep my felines comfortable

Yep mine lives a life of Riley. The opulent ginger ninja.

open fire

My great granddad was last dude I knew with an open fire. Proper old school farm house as it was built, I don't even think it had gas heating all open fire water system, tbf I never went up stairs, the outhouse was for peeing. It had old pig sty's the lot. Fond memories.

 

[soundwave]

im on a non payment plan, not paid a penny in over a decade

tho had a bang on the door the other day as the house over the road blew up his meter, old age he said lol and had to remove the main fuse from the other 3 houses to even remove it and replace it with a smart meter as now that's all they got to fit.

all 4 of our houses run of 1 cable underground and he said if we all had electric home car charges and put all 4 on charge with the loads of the house on top the cable wont handle it according to him on our old setup.

if i put the shower on the mains box makes a loud buzzing noise lol.

 

[Nealh]

I will tell you my little saga , I shot my self in the foot because everywhere they kept saying switch for a better deal. Little did we know that Putrid would start a war.

I was for years with SE then moved over to Shell , where I soon realised SE were ripping customers off . This switch was a good one and I tied in to a good deal then had the option to tie in for another good slightly better deal, silly me saw different and found an even slighty better tied in long term deal with PurePlanet. Four or five months down the line and after Putrid had started his egotistic war PP went up the swanny so I was transfered back to Shell, but pooped out as many were and now am on the current fixed rate of 35.4p for E.

 

[Nealh]

I have three pussies now we have added a 10.5 y/o female to out home whom we rehomed xmas eve just gone, she is a softy but very spicy with other felines. My other two are a lovely 12.75 y/o Red Tabby he is a softy , we have had him since a kitten and a 15 month Calico female who we got as a kitten. She and the Red spend all there time together, as yet the new girl is much on her own until she learns to be social with my resident pair.

 

[Nealh]

One big benifit was during first lock down was to finally raise my loft floor and insulate with 400mm above the ceiling ( a job put off for too long as being in the construction industry for 35 years I never found the time to do the work until I semi retired and took up a p/t driving job), so the loft has 400mm insulation centrally and 500/600 mm along the edges which are 1.2m wide.
The upstairs at night is pretty cosy 17 /18c with stat only occasionally ticking over at 14/15c down stairs , the heating fires up maybe three or four times from approx near 11 p.m to 8 a.m.
The loft hatch is one area people neglect to draught proof or even insulate, the hatch I made and encompassed some ultra high density insulation between the outer skins to prevent heat loss (we used to make cold store doors and I squirrelled away some of the nice Blue thermal insulation board), the door/hatch sits onto some polyeurathane door/window sealant routered in to the hacth doorstops for a complete draught proof enclosure. The door uses a simple push /touch release open /close latch.

The adavntage of high loft insulation also pays dividends in the summer when temps hit low to mid 30s , as the upstairs can be kept reasonably moderate and several degrees cooler to enable sleep aided by keeping curtains drawn during the day to repel the sun.
Here we have east to west aspect so am we leave the front curtains drawn and them noon or just after the rears are drawn and the fronts opened.

 

[Nealh]

I was thinking of secondary pumped in wall insulation but generally the work is very poorly done and leaves many cold spots that renders it pretty much useless. Over time any blown in stuff sags under its own weight as it compresses so often leaves air gaps esp higher up. Then there is the mositure/mould issue , blown insulation often creates more problems then it solves as the industry is very badly regulated.

 

[PC2017]

new girl is much on her own until she learns to be social

Ours is 12 now & play nice with the locals, I think she the bully in neighbourhood, however she does attract a lot of males to the area...

400mm insulation

Oh yer, I forgot about your insulation.

 

[MikelBikel]

I'm puzzled, gov says Sizewell C will need billions in private investment after the UK public have spent £20bn with EDF building it! Why not keep it and enjoy the record billions in profit "made" by energy companies like Centrica. Or is that too much like common sense?

 

[Woosh]

Nuclear generation is not cheap, it can't compete against wind, solar, hydro, geothermal and gas. This is even before the cost of decommissioning. our government has to top up their income with tax money. If we have any sense, we must invest in energy storage, gas and batteries.

 

[PC2017]

UK public have spent £20bn with EDF building it!

Capital Socialism, Government handouts, but not to the poor or low income, but to Large for profit companies who in-turn, make tons of profit and keep it all in the form of Share buy-backs, CEO salaries & shareholder dividends. Without it these companies would not waste their own cash investing in projects for the greater good of mankind.

A good example in the US is the "Chip Act" pouring billions into relocating Chip Fabs to the US however crazy building Chip Fabs in the desert sounds, when the process consumes masses of water. It is also a good way of extracting Government funds straight to the pockets of the very people who are in power.

 

[Woosh]

A good example in the US is the "Chip Act" pouring billions into relocating Chip Fabs to the US however crazy building Chip Fabs in the desert sounds, when the process consumes masses of water. It is also a good way of extracting Government funds straight to the pockets of the very people who are in power.

the US needs to make sure that it has access to TMSC's 5nm technology. Only TMSC and Samsung have that technology. The US will give about $50 billions to semiconductor manufacturers, the EU does the same, spending about the same amount mainly in Germany and France to build the wafer fabs. China invests even more than that.
When you see how much investment is needed to build 3D or vertical chips, we just don't have the money to compete.