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flecc

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Was that hydro-electric, or did they use the mechanical power directly which seems to make more sense?
Hydro electric to power the printing presses. Powering them individually mechanically wouldn't have been practical.
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For a short while in the early 60's hydro powered provided I believe 85% of Italy's energy, then the big disaster of the Vajont dam occurred. Today hydro from the north accounts for 40% of their energy needs.
 

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apple icrapper wont be far of and bog roll 10x the price as wont work with any other brand.

plus you can get fined for exceeding weekly output taken direct out of ur digital bank account because it wont work without the fkn crappy app :p
 
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HMRC failing to collect £42bn in taxes - MPs say windfall could fix 'black hole' in UK's finances
The government has been accused of losing "staggering amounts" of money for public services "through incompetence" after a report found £42bn is owed to HMRC in unpaid taxes.

 

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could fix 'black hole'
Wasn't this black whole debacle an accounting trick and goal post moving. If the pensions or banking sector collapses they'll find a staggering amount of cash at the drop of a hat or better yet get the BoE to print some, then every corrupt individual gets a bung.
 

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For my sleeping bag, I scored an Ambiano plate warmer at a British Heart Foundation charity shop for £1 (reduced from £5 in one of their absurd sales). Warms my feet very rapidly, might be 150W, warms the sleeping bag very well.


The thermostat is within the warmer, which makes it safer than the electric blanket - there's a limit to how hot a 40W electric blanket can get inside a sleeping bag, but even so.
 
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Science, not "Scienc-ish", shows how pie in the sky full lithium battery electrification is?
(Source: Simon Michaux is an Associate Professor of Geometallurgy at the Geological Survey of Finland.)
 

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Science, not "Scienc-ish", shows how pie in the sky full lithium battery electrification is?
(Source: Simon Michaux is an Associate Professor of Geometallurgy at the Geological Survey of Finland.)
Oh dear, yet another silly critic:

1) We are not trying to immediately convert the world's ICs to lithium batteries, we are making a start with light vehicles like cars and vans and some urban area trucks where pollution is a particular problem.

2) Nor will it be all Lithium. Mitsubishi have just switched two models to Toshiba's SCiB battery and similar sodium battery technologies are being currently developed further with more technologies on the way.

3) In this country alone it will take well over 20 years to replace just our 32.7 million i.c. cars alone, with that not even starting until 2035, taking the over 20 years delay to 32 years. The world by then will be very different in ways we cannot imagine.

4) It is widespread government policy throughout the world to reduce all car ownership and use anyway, in order to meet the COP climate crisis targets, so that professor hasn't a clue how much lithium might be eventually needed anyway.
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Any guess what this would do to electricity prices?
(Worldwide electricity use)
Wrong conclusion again, simply because we won't be using anywhere near as much energy in future. Simply because we won't be able to as your post shows.

All human forecasts of the future fail. The futures we actually reach have always proved to be beyond prior imagination.

The present even tells us that. Not long ago when I switched on the kitchen light's two tungsten lamps they consumed at a 150 watt rate. Now the four LEDs consume 14 watts, less than one tenth. Once my 19" colour TV heated the room up. Now my 65" OLED screen runs cool.
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the new amd gfx cards run at 110c so if you get the new cpu that runs at 90c you can heat ur house with it, if it dont catch fire :p
 
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government policy throughout the world to reduce all car ownership
Aye, but not to reduce mining coal, not to reduce industrialization of developing nations, nor stop polluting the ocean, but to remove freedoms from folks in the west & to charge us an arm and leg in order to achieve the goal. As mentioned before, all to allow the mega rich grand kids of the future to breath clean air. There is science on both sides of the argument. Imo nothing done on either side will save the planet, it's too late the damage is done, we are doomed to the pages of a fiction book the likes of "Snowpiercer".
 
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Aye, but not to reduce mining coal, not to reduce industrialization of developing nations, nor stop polluting the ocean, but to remove freedoms from folks in the west & to charge us an arm and leg in order to achieve the goal. As mentioned before, all to allow the mega rich grand kids of the future to breath clean air. There is science on both sides of the argument. Imo nothing done on either side will save the planet, it's too late the damage is done, we are doomed to the pages of a fiction book the likes of "Snowpiercer".
Could well be true, though an equally likely scenario is that we will have left it to the last minute and then suffer really extreme drastic measures to save ourselves. In that scenario there will be no mega rich kids of the future, we'll all be living impoverished lives with more than few hints of life having a medieval character.
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