Police ebike checks.

[LeighPing]

How would you react if approached by the police.
Depending on how much being messed around by the police I would decide whether to comply.

A). Don’t comply the police can confiscate your bike and the time taken for them to test it and find it’s not illegal. Inform you of the outcome for you to arrange to pick it up sometime.

B). Just let him ride it, realise it isn’t and you can go on your way.

If you didn't let them prove that it was illegal by allowing them to ride your bike, then what would their reasonable suspicion, to confiscate / impound, be based on?

 

[soundwave]

 

[Woosh]

then what would their reasonable suspicion, to confiscate / impound, be based on?

250W label?
A factory built e-bike must have EN15194 sticker with the name of the manufacturer. A kit must have 250W label on the motor.

 

[LeighPing]

250W label?
A factory built e-bike must have EN15194 sticker with the name of the manufacturer. A kit must have 250W label on the motor.

Can it have that.. and a dongle?

 

[Deleted member 25121]

"Well, your honour, I was in the fast lane on the motorway overtaking some cars when I heard a siren coming from the car behind which also had some flashing blue lights.
Realising that this could be a hoax and they'd stop me to steal my car I refused to stop and carried on regardless.
I've read about these police imposters on the internet."

And what do expect the verdict would be eh?

 

[LeighPing]

"Well, your honour, I was in the fast lane on the motorway overtaking some cars when I heard a siren coming from the car behind which also had some flashing blue lights.
Realising that this could be a hoax and they'd stop me to steal my car I refused to stop and carried on regardless.
I've read about these police imposters on the internet."

And what do expect the verdict would be eh?

Yes, in that situation, guilty is likely of course. Having said that, it has happened as someone mentioned earlier. Where police stopped a car and then drove off with it, leaving the driver at the side of the road.

However, we're not talking about making off from the police, which would be relatively easy to do on a bike. We're talking about complying with the police stop and why anyone would let them test ride their bike in a bid to find evidence, which may be used against them.

So, if you didn't let them prove that a bike was illegal by allowing them to ride your bike, then what would their reasonable suspicion, to confiscate / impound, be based on?

 

[Woosh]

So, if you didn't let them prove that a bike was illegal by allowing them to ride your bike, then what would their reasonable suspicion, to confiscate / impound, be based on?

250W/25kph label is missing if it's a kit.
if it's a factory made bike, the presence of a dongle.

 

[LeighPing]

250W/25kph label is missing if it's a kit.

If it's a legal kit, without a 250W/25kph sticker, does that make it illegal then?

if it's a factory made bike, the presence of a dongle.

Are dongles easily removed?

 

[Nealh]

Some dongles are and takes a swift few seconds, whilst you check the bike for a puncture or brake issue.

 

[Woosh]

If it's a legal kit, without a 250W/25kph sticker, does that make it illegal then?

In all probability, an officer wouldn't have cause to stop you if you didn't ride well over 15mph, especially not pedalling.
If you get pulled in, I think you need to be able to point out something that supports your assertion that it's a 250W motor and demonstrate that the speed is limited to 15mph.
For example, ask the officer to help you lift up the motorwheel so you can demonstrate the speed limit.

Are dongles easily removed?

no and it's still obvious if you try to remove something after you stop the bike.

It's pretty obvious to many of us to spot an illegal e-bike, so why not a police officer?

 

[LeighPing]

For example, ask the officer to help you lift up the motorwheel so you can demonstrate the speed limit.


no and it's still obvious if you try to remove something after you stop the bike.

It's pretty obvious to many of us to spot an illegal e-bike, so why not a police officer?

@soundwave You'd better get down the gym son. Those ebikes are heavy.

 

[flecc]

If you didn't let them prove that it was illegal by allowing them to ride your bike, then what would their reasonable suspicion, to confiscate / impound, be based on?

Lack of proper labelling, virtually no pedelecs are correctly marked in every respect. Here's what the law says, the first way is for current machines built to EU standards, the second for 2015 and before machines. (Forget about kit builds, a police officer isn't qualified to determine if an e-bike is kit built or just a non standard manufactured one.):

"Must be fitted with a plate securely fixed in a conspicuous and readily accessible position showing— (a) the name of the manufacturer of the vehicle, (b) the nominal voltage of the battery (as defined in the 1971 British Standard) of the vehicle, and (c) the continuous rated output (as defined in the 1971 British Standard) of the motor of the vehicle;

or (ii) visibly and durably marked with— (a) the name of the manufacturer of the vehicle, (b) the maximum speed at which the motor can propel the vehicle specified in miles per hour or kilometres per hour, and (c) the maximum continuous rated power (as defined in the Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycles Regulations 1983)(d) of the motor of the vehicle specified in watts or kilowatts;”

If not plated in one of the above ways, suspicion exists that it may well be illegal since it's well known that there are numerous illegal e-bikes and other two wheelers on the roads.
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[soundwave]

all id need to do is bolt down a ally way take it if and lob it somewhere not that it has ever been a problem but no dongle no proof.

 

[Amoto65]

Do they actually work?

 

[Wicky]

Do they actually work?

Police or dongles?

 

[Amoto65]

The Baddass dongles over the sensor, as for the police that is open to debate.

 

[soundwave]

do any of you lot pay the bbc tv licence ? we not paid it for near ten years now as dont use it or have a account to watch it.

they still send letters tho pmsl.

 

[Woosh]

this is the EN15194 label on all Woosh bikes:

it is weatherproof and always affixed to the seat post.

 

[LeighPing]

this is the EN15194 label on all Woosh bikes:

it is weatherproof and always affixed to the seat post.

You Sir, should be ashamed of yourself! Carpe dieming on such a serious topic!

 

[Woosh]

You Sir, should be ashamed of yourself! Carpe dieming on such a serious topic!

that was in reply to flecc's post:

Lack of proper labelling, virtually no pedelecs are correctly marked in every respect. Here's what the law says, the first way is for current machines built to EU standards, the second for 2015 and before machines. (Forget about kit builds, a police officer isn't qualified to determine if an e-bike is kit built or just a non standard manufactured one.):

"Must be fitted with a plate securely fixed in a conspicuous and readily accessible position showing— (a) the name of the manufacturer of the vehicle, (b) the nominal voltage of the battery (as defined in the 1971 British Standard) of the vehicle, and (c) the continuous rated output (as defined in the 1971 British Standard) of the motor of the vehicle;

or (ii) visibly and durably marked with— (a) the name of the manufacturer of the vehicle, (b) the maximum speed at which the motor can propel the vehicle specified in miles per hour or kilometres per hour, and (c) the maximum continuous rated power (as defined in the Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycles Regulations 1983)(d) of the motor of the vehicle specified in watts or kilowatts;”

If not plated in one of the above ways, suspicion exists that it may well be illegal since it's well known that there are numerous illegal e-bikes and other two wheelers on the roads.
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