May 16, 20169 yr We've just had this through from one of our dealers. Good afternoon, Did you know that your products have been banned by a national charity? The back story... Having raised £3000 for the British Heart Foundation by cycling the 300 mile off-road route from London to Paris in 2013 on a pedelec/e-bike, Cycling Made Easy has now been told that pedelecs are banned from taking part in their cycling events – even though they are non-competitive rides, and pedelecs (as you know) are legally classed as bicycles. They state in their communications to us that e-bikes pose a ‘risk’. What this means and why it matters... - Anyone riding your e-bikes will be denied the chance to take part in this wonderful event, no matter how much money they would have raised. - Their policy perpetuates the myth that your products pose a ‘risk’ to the public. What you can do today... We are pushing hard to get pedelecs accepted by the BHF, and by extension other organisations which hold false beliefs about their safety. Incidentally, other charity rides – such as the Capital2Coast ride – do allow pedelecs. Can I ask that you: - Sign our petition (below)? - Forward to your colleagues and friends to do the same? We see this as an important matter for our customers and our industry. Takes 1 minute à Sign and share this petition: https://www.change.org/p/british-heart-foundation-bhf-to-allow-pedelec-e-bikes-to-enter-non-competitive-fundraising-bike-rides Takes 2 minutes à Read our press release “BHF pull plug on electric bikes”: http://www.cyclingmadeeasy.co.uk/e-bikes-at-cycling-made-easy/press-release-british-heart-foundation-pulls-plug-electric-bikes/ Takes 2 minutes à Read Ray Wookey’s Statement “We need to reward pedelec riders’ courage”: http://www.cyclingmadeeasy.co.uk/e-bikes-at-cycling-made-easy/need-reward-pedelec-riders-courage-ray-wookey/ If you would like to add your voice, as an industry professional, to this cause, do get in touch. We would appreciate your input. Thanks in advance for your support, Neil Ridulfa t. 020 8660 8823 e. neil.ridulfa@cyclingmadeeasy.co.uk a. Leo House 226 - 230 Brighton Road, Coulsdon, Surrey, CR5 2NF www.cyclingmadeeasy.co.uk
May 16, 20169 yr https://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2012/09/08/british-heart-foundations-workfare-lies/ the bhf are a risk to the public on there own Google it
May 16, 20169 yr Banning something that is good for people with heart condition just goes to show how good they are at looking after people doesn't it... It seems that most heart foundations are useless, the Spanish one gives the thumbs up to a product described by doctors as "snake oil"...
May 16, 20169 yr let's be honest, how many of you can do this with your e-bike? If you can then may be they'll let you ride your e-bike. https://www.bhf.org.uk/get-involved/events/bike-rides/london-to-brighton-bike-ride I think the ban is about fair team competition.
May 16, 20169 yr I would never donate ever again to the BHF as we had some really nice Ercol furniture that was to big when we recently moved house and thought we would donate it to them,but on arrival they fully inspected it and asked us numerous questions and were not very grateful that they got it for free. And now banning a product that can help heart conditions is just narrow minded whether the bikes are legal or not.
May 16, 20169 yr I think the ban is about fair team competition. Sooooo complicated to create a special pedelec class! And have people who have had heart surgery etc. out on their pedelecs showing that cycling is good for you and that riding a bike doesn't have to be a competition...
May 16, 20169 yr The ride is known to be congested with lots of once a year cyclists riding like idiots. Couple that with some misinformation about pedelecs, and you can see the reason for the ban. There might also be a genuine fear someone will turn up with their 1,000W contraption, ride it like everyone else, and cause a crash.
May 16, 20169 yr Electric assist can be a reasonable adjustment to enable a disabled person to join in and feel part of the cycling community. Excluding them is potentially discriminatory. ( only potentially) That is something for a court to decide if they have failed in there duty to undertake a impact analysis and come up with a good reason to restrict entry. My Athsma is a disability within the legal definition ( but not court tested) Preventing me from joining in could upset me. But not yet as I haven't asked.
May 16, 20169 yr We've just had this through from one of our dealers. Good afternoon, Did you know that your products have been banned by a national charity? The back story... Having raised £3000 for the British Heart Foundation by cycling the 300 mile off-road route from London to Paris in 2013 on a pedelec/e-bike, Cycling Made Easy has now been told that pedelecs are banned from taking part in their cycling events – even though they are non-competitive rides, and pedelecs (as you know) are legally classed as bicycles. They state in their communications to us that e-bikes pose a ‘risk’. What this means and why it matters... - Anyone riding your e-bikes will be denied the chance to take part in this wonderful event, no matter how much money they would have raised. - Their policy perpetuates the myth that your products pose a ‘risk’ to the public. What you can do today... We are pushing hard to get pedelecs accepted by the BHF, and by extension other organisations which hold false beliefs about their safety. Incidentally, other charity rides – such as the Capital2Coast ride – do allow pedelecs. Can I ask that you: - Sign our petition (below)? - Forward to your colleagues and friends to do the same? We see this as an important matter for our customers and our industry. Takes 1 If you would like to add your voice, as an industry professional, to this cause, do get in touch. We would appreciate your input. Thanks in advance for your support, Neil Ridulfa J will certainly be upset by this - she's done several 40km rides for charity and raised money for BHF, Gladstone's Library and GOES. She's planning to do another ride in the autumn, on her etrike. The rides are not competitions! Tom
May 16, 20169 yr Has anyone actually communicated with the organisers to find out what their percieved problem is with pedelecs beyond the vaguely stated reason of "risk". Could a quick telephone call from industry representatives to the charity save some mistunderstanding and help clarify things...
May 16, 20169 yr Shush don't mention his dongled bike It just looks like he's dong 26kph, he's not really
May 16, 20169 yr I took part in a 10 Kilometer run which was organised by The Briitish Heart Foundation last year. As we crossed the finish line we were presented with a beef burger in a bun. It's hard to say what is behind this ebike ban. It could be one of two extremes, one being extreme ignorance the other being heightened awareness of high power & speed bikes.
May 16, 20169 yr I took part in a 10 Kilometer run which was organised by The Briitish Heart Foundation last year. As we crossed the finish line we were presented with a beef burger in a bun. It's hard to say what is behind this ebike ban. It could be one of two extremes, one being extreme ignorance the other being heightened awareness of high power & speed bikes. So beef burgers in buns are good for heart conditions... Did it have a big M on the wrapping? They make wonderful heart improving products the M chain of healthy food...
May 17, 20169 yr I have taken part in a few BHF rides and the ones at the front always ride like it is a stage race,at least the first 50 going at it like idiots.When they see someone on a e-bike they presume the rider is having a easy time and start moaning.So i could see complaints coming from them to the organisers.
May 17, 20169 yr I have taken part in a few BHF rides and the ones at the front always ride like it is a stage race,at least the first 50 going at it like idiots.When they see someone on a e-bike they presume the rider is having a easy time and start moaning.So i could see complaints coming from them to the organisers. Thats a far more likely reason for the ban than them banning ebikes because of non legal and dongled ones.
May 17, 20169 yr I've ridden the London to Brighton ride on a regular bike 13 times. I no longer ride this due to the massive number or riders making cycling the whole route impossible. Plenty of pushing up the hills due to crowd speed and volume. Last thing I'd wanna be using and pushing is a 20kg Pedelec. BHF decision is no great loss on this one and probably done some a favour.
May 18, 20169 yr I've ridden the London to Brighton ride on a regular bike 13 times. I no longer ride this due to the massive number or riders making cycling the whole route impossible. Plenty of pushing up the hills due to crowd speed and volume. Last thing I'd wanna be using and pushing is a 20kg Pedelec. BHF decision is no great loss on this one and probably done some a favour. Have a look at the Capital to Coast ride. I marshall it every year on the motorbike. Really lovely routes and normally up to about 1500 cyclists as opposed to the tens of thousands doing the BHF ride. E-bikes no problem either!!!
May 18, 20169 yr Author Thats a far more likely reason for the ban than them banning ebikes because of non legal and dongled ones. I can see that's what you'd like to think. But they have clearly said - "They state in their communications to us that e-bikes pose a ‘risk’." They wouldn't use the word risk if they simply wanted to create a level playing field, they'd just say, "we want to create a level playing field". That's a good enough reason.
May 18, 20169 yr I can see that's what you'd like to think. But they have clearly said - "They state in their communications to us that e-bikes pose a ‘risk’." As your the sole importer of KTM then you as well as all the other ebike brand distributors have got to get together as well as ebike owners oppose this rather than passing the blame on people with dongled bikes as I do believe they are a minority in the bigger picture.
May 18, 20169 yr Author As your the sole importer of KTM then you as well as all the other ebike brand distributors have got to get together as well as ebike owners oppose this rather than passing the blame on people with dongled bikes as I do believe they are a minority in the bigger picture. We are / I am... that's why we shared this! But at the same we will of course continue to highlight the negative impact of people riding illegally powerful bikes in the public arena and how this impacts on us all.
May 18, 20169 yr The easiest way round all this is check every bike which they should anyway to make sure it's road legal all this is getting like the doping in regards to sport as they don't ban the sport they ban the competitor.
May 18, 20169 yr We are / I am... that's why we shared this! But at the same we will of course continue to highlight the negative impact of people riding illegally powerful bikes in the public arena and how this impacts on us all. Have you asked BHF if illegal bikes were a consideration in regards to the decision? If not, surely you ought to.
May 18, 20169 yr I mean the BHF pay there executives hundreds of thousands each year and how much extra would it cost to check a tiny tiny fraction of a price.
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