MET Police looking out for ilegal e-bikes

Jimod

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Saw this on Twitter today:


Not that it takes Scotland Yard's finest to see that there isn't a chain on this bike, or that the motor is marked "1000W"...but I was wondering if anyone heard about a crack down on e-bikes lately?
I pedaled my Kudos Tourer 4 miles home with no chain on it. The chain had broken. It was perfectly legal to do this, so the met police aren't as clever as they think.
 
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The end is nigh for high powered ebikes on the roads with fools like this


D*cks like that will bring the heat down on us all, especially the kit conversions with adjustable top speed and/or throttles not limited to 6km/h. Other Police forces may follow the Met's focus.
 

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Anyone seen the Met bragging about stopping illegal motor scooter riders pretty much everywhere in London these days?
I doubt it, and they are more obvious.
 
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Anyone seen the Met bragging about stopping illegal motor scooter riders pretty much everywhere in London these days?
I doubt it, and they are more obvious.


It's a good job cyclists are completely invisible
 
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Anyone seen the Met bragging about stopping illegal motor scooter riders pretty much everywhere in London these days?
I doubt it, and they are more obvious.
The way they are organised into specialised squads now and the numbers they have mean they just haven't got anyone to do this sort of policing any more. Instead they fire fight:

A woman on one of these scooters get's killed so they send out a few officers to give some token warnings.

A while ago there were a string of cyclists killed by left turning trucks due to the drivers not seeing them under the truck mirrors. So for a couple of weeks loads of officers were sent out to give warnings and some tickets to an assortment of drivers and cyclists. Tokenism once again and not even reaching the right targets.

That is how policing is done today, briefly reacting to any problem that reaches an embarrassing level, but at all other times dealing with the political targets of the day.
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The way they are organised into specialised squads now and the numbers they have mean they just haven't got anyone to do this sort of policing any more. Instead they fire fight:

A woman on one of these scooters get's killed so they send out a few officers to give some token warnings.

A while ago there were a string of cyclists killed by left turning trucks due to the drivers not seeing them under the truck mirrors. So for a couple of weeks loads of officers were sent out to give warnings and some tickets to an assortment of drivers and cyclists. Tokenism once again and not even reaching the right targets.

That is how policing is done today, briefly reacting to any problem that reaches an embarrassing level, but at all other times dealing with the political targets of the day.
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They always claim that cutting Police budgets, without reducing the effectiveness of Police forces is possible - but now many Police stations are being sold all over the country and they don't even attend the scenes of many anymore; burglaries for example.

I had put the throttle back on my bike and set max throttle speed on the Bafang controller via software to 25km/h, before I had read the OP's article link, but have now removed it again. It's in my bike toolbag, in case of emergencies - like when my pedal fell off the other day (after my bike was tripped up by a tree root, and I landed BMX-helmeted head first), and didn't have the right hex key. I'll claim it's for the horn if they search me. A horn with variable volume or pitch, for different situations requiring the electronic auditory expression of varying levels of cycling distress, or for playing a tune, busking to obtain funds for a taxi home post-accident or injury.

Police are few... the time is ripe for an organised pedelec uprising and coup d'état! Vive la revolution! :p
 
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Police are few...
Agree on closing police stations, but police numbers are not the problem. The basis of the problem is that the police are now organised into specialist task specific squads to please their political masters desires. They no longer work for the public, instead working for the politicians and their current policies.

Thus we have the anti-terrorism squads investigating that full time.

The Firearm squads roaming looking for suitable incidents to attend.

The anti-gang specialist squads.

Murder Squads.

The Sapphire Squads who specialise in sex crimes, mostly pursuing geriatrics for long past crimes since it makes the conviction rate look good.

Large numbers engaged on time consuming drug offences.

Plus numerous officers tied down in administering the over 60,000 people on the Sex Offences Register. They have to interview at police stations every one put on the register initially and annually and record a large list of information every time. They also have to visit all those on the register in their homes at least once a year and far more often when they are assessed as being possibly high risk. The amount of police time taken up by the register is immense.

You'll gather that I've worked with the police previously and have police friends including a neighbour who is a police officer and my closest friend in the area, so I have a good understanding of their problems and the causes.
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The police are too busy investigating hurty words on social media and beating up lockdown protesters to worry about ebikes.

Oh no! You've got me thinking of putting the throttle back on again.
 
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Agree on closing police stations, but police numbers are not the problem. The basis of the problem is that the police are now organised into specialist task specific squads to please their political masters desires. They no longer work for the public, instead working for the politicians and their current policies.

Thus we have the anti-terrorism squads investigating that full time.

The Firearm squads roaming looking for suitable incidents to attend.

The anti-gang specialist squads.

Murder Squads.

The Sapphire Squads who specialise in sex crimes, mostly pursuing geriatrics for long past crimes since it makes the conviction rate look good.

Large numbers engaged on time consuming drug offences.

Plus numerous officers tied down in administering the over 60,000 people on the Sex Offences Register. They have to interview at police stations every one put on the register initially and annually and record a large list of information every time. They also have to visit all those on the register in their homes at least once a year and far more often when they are assessed as being possibly high risk. The amount of police time taken up by the register is immense.

You'll gather that I've worked with the police previously and have police friends including a neighbour who is a police officer and my closest friend in the area, so I have a good understanding of their problems and the causes.
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Were you a mercenary for Police hire or lawyer?

You've bypassed Police budgets and gone straight to Police numbers. You do seem to know a lot about the cops. Their cybercrimes units are a complete joke, undertrained and under-resourced - cybercrimes at an all time high and Banks can't be bothered to investigate either... Banks are likely (eventually and under legal duress, where that can be applied) pay out, then claim on insurace, but the perpetrators may never be caught. If Police budgets were higher, and they didn't spend so much on decomissioned military equipment being peddled by purveyors of arms and military materiel at a loose end between wars, might there not be more Police officers made available/trained for frontline Policing?
 
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Were you a mercenary for Police hire or lawyer?
Some similarities.

Mercenary no, but a volunteer on a Home Office scheme working with the police on youth crime.

Lawyer no, but teamed with a criminal law solicitor for over a decade defending the arrested against wrongful prosecutions. I was the investigator, the solicitor constructing the defence on the truths I unearthed and appointing suitable barristers.

So working for and against the police at various times.
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Seen on tv News regards Met police officer charged with murder of that poor woman killed and her family having to grieve after alls been all across the news ..But i hope that he gets his just desserts in time soon in prison when in close attendance beside many other hardened lifers . Facts are some within police are not fit for purpose and when in uniform or plain clothes the job goes to their heads as some think they can do all they want as have authority on side ... But nothing better ive witnessed when on jury trial than seeing 2 bent cid officers squirm in a court of law when their lies was in front of a jury and sheriff and solicitor and fiscal for all to witness under oath and then for the innocent guy to walk free ... And as for complaints about police cid whatever then its not fit for purpose.. as police looking into police complaints normally is only one outcome ..Should be a completely independant investigation in them matters as fairer for all .
 
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Seen on tv News regards Met police officer charged with murder of that poor woman killed and her family having to grieve after alls been all across the news ..But i hope that he gets his just desserts in time soon in prison when in close attendance beside many other hardened lifers . Facts are some within police are not fit for purpose and when in uniform or plain clothes the job goes to their heads as some think they can do all they want as have authority on side . But nothing better ive witnessed when on jury trial than seeing 2 bent cid officers squirm in a court of law when their lies was in front of a jury and sheriff and solicitor and fiscal for all to witness under oath .


"Power Reveals Character"

Where I used to work, it was always fun watching how people gradually changed once they got power. Previously polite, quiet, well-liked people became tyrants.
 
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The police are too busy investigating hurty words on social media and beating up lockdown protesters to worry about ebikes.


If there's a law, there will be some level of Policing. The UK has some of the toughest libel laws in the world. In fact, they're so tough there are "Libel tourists".
 

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D*cks like that will bring the heat down on us all, especially the kit conversions with adjustable top speed and/or throttles not limited to 6km/h. Other Police forces may follow the Met's focus.
Utter selfish, thoughtless, dangerous morons. Exactly the sort of parasites we don't want attached to our leisure pursuit. At best they will drag us all down; at worst they will kill someone. Equivalent of the football hooligan.
 
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Some similarities.

Mercenary no, but a volunteer on a Home Office scheme working with the police on youth crime.

Lawyer no, but teamed with a criminal law solicitor for over a decade defending the arrested against wrongful prosecutions. I was the investigator, the solicitor constructing the defence on the truths I unearthed and appointing suitable barristers.

So working for and against the police at various times.
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I almost asked if you were a "Gumshoe", wish I had now :rolleyes:

I'm disappointed you didn't wear an eyepatch and carry a AK47, while slashing with cutlasses shouting "Arrrr!" Bit more like The Equalizer then? What was your favourite case? 10 years is a long time. You Sam Spades must all have a favourite cracked case that you brag about to your fellow Sams in your secret lair, next to the Illuminatis. Reveal all names and details, of course.
 
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I almost asked if you were a "Gumshoe", wish I had now :rolleyes:

I'm disappointed you didn't wear an eyepatch and carry a AK47, while slashing with cutlasses shouting "Arrrr!". Bit more like The Equalizer then? What was your favourite case? 10 years is a long time. You Sam Spades must all have a favourite cracked case that you brag about to your fellow Sams in your secret lair, next to the Illuminatis. Reveal all names and details, of course.
We won every case we tackled against the police.

But my favourite was the last one.

In court with the defendant, a police sergeant with a group of police spotted me and came over, asking me if I was on that case. I said yes and he went back to the group, said something and then left for a few minutes.

When he returned he came straight over to the defendant and said he could leave since they were dropping the case. I cross checked in case there would be dirty tactics like a re-arrest as he left, but they really had dropped the case. Clearly our teamwork's successes had gained notoriety in police circles!

Technically that wasn't a success since they'd given up, but we'd have won anyway since the charge was incorrect for the alleged offence.
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flecc

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Where I used to work, it was always fun watching how people gradually changed once they got power. Previously polite, quiet, well-liked people became tyrants.
So true. I've spent the great majority of my working life in some form of authority but am well aware of the dangers. Accordingly I deny any status and regard myself as just another ordinary person, always telling others that. Even in all my management jobs I expected staff to address me as Tony and they were told they could express themselves freely with no fear. In a mood and wanting to say I was an effing idiot they could so long as it was never in front of customers, and they did on odd occasions.

For example you and most in here have the title "Esteemed pedelecer", but I am only shown as Member, as ordinary as it can get. No-one else has that title so ironically it makes me special in the sense of unique, but I discount that.
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