Marathon Plus Tyre Sizes

I NOTE THAT THE CONCENCUS OF OPINION FAVOURS SCHWALBE MARATHON PLUS AS BEING THE TYRE TO HAVE AND THAT THE SIZE FAOURED FOR A TORQ SEEMS TO BE 700C X 38. ALL-TERAIN CYCLES ( ATC: Marathon Plus - Schwalbe - Road - Tyres ) DON'T SEEM TO HAVE 700C X 38, BUT DO QUOTE 35s AND 40s FOR £17.99. PRICE LOOKS GOOD, BUT WHICH SIZE SHOULD I GO FOR?

WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK OF CONTINENTAL PUNTURE PROOF TYRES AS AN ALTERNATIVE?

THANKS.

I think All Terrain have made a mistake, though it could be they are referring to the 47-622, which is a 28" x 1.75". How that would fit I don't know.

Schwalbe don't list a 700c x 40, the largest being 700c x 38, as you can see on their site here.

The Continental have many good reports on the internet, but they rely solely on a kevlar band not being penetrated. The Marathon Plus can absorb piercing up to 8 mm and still not be punctured. In practice though, I doubt if there'd be much difference.

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Edited November 17, 200718 yr by flecc

I think All Terrain have made a mistake, though it could be they are referring to the 47-622, which is a 28" x 1.75". How that would fit I don't know.

 

Schwalbe don't list a 700c x 40, the largest being 700c x 38, as you can see on their site here.

 

The Continental have many good reports on the internet, but they rely solely on a kevlar band not being penetrated. The Marathon Plus can absorb piercing up to 8 mm and still not be punctured. In practice though, I doubt if there'd be much difference.

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Hi Flecc,

thanks for that. I guess you wouldn't advise going smaller than 38 on a Torq particularly at this time of year when grip is reduced.

The price looks reasonable for Marathon + so I might ring them and clarify the size issue.

Schwalbe Marathon Plus

I NOTE THAT THE CONCENCUS OF OPINION FAVOURS SCHWALBE MARATHON PLUS AS BEING THE TYRE TO HAVE AND THAT THE SIZE FAOURED FOR A TORQ SEEMS TO BE 700C X 38. ALL-TERAIN CYCLES ( ATC: Marathon Plus - Schwalbe - Road - Tyres ) DON'T SEEM TO HAVE 700C X 38, BUT DO QUOTE 35s AND 40s FOR £17.99. PRICE LOOKS GOOD, BUT WHICH SIZE SHOULD I GO FOR?

 

WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK OF CONTINENTAL PUNTURE PROOF TYRES AS AN ALTERNATIVE?

 

THANKS.

Try Bike Plus online shop. (http://www.bikeplus.co.uk) they have 700c x 38.

Unfortunately their online shop website is not responding at this moment.

P.

Edited November 17, 200718 yr by ITSPETEINIT

Hi Flecc,

thanks for that. I guess you wouldn't advise going smaller than 38 on a Torq particularly at this time of year when grip is reduced.

The price looks reasonable for Marathon + so I might ring them and clarify the size issue.

I do use two smaller sizes on my T bike, derived from the Torq, 28 front and 35 rear with the rear motor, but that's for out and out performance reasons, so it's a hard ride and intended for fine weather use. For normal all round use I wouldn't go below the 38.

All Terrain do seem to be consistently the best on the prices of these.

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Hi Aldby,

I suspect that All Terrain Cycles have muddled up the (confusing) full tyre spec of the Schwalbe '622-40 700x38C' tyre, and a phone call would likely confirm that the '40' tyre they sell is indeed the 700x38C which members recommend .

Stuart.

Marathon plus tyres

Hi,

Information for what it may be worth?I recently bought a pair of Marathon plus tyres from derekscyclesonline.excellent service and a fair price,he operates from within the E-BAY framework and sells all types of cycle bits and bobs,at least worth a look?

Regards,

langtry

Hi,

 

Information for what it may be worth?I recently bought a pair of Marathon plus tyres from derekscyclesonline.excellent service and a fair price,he operates from within the E-BAY framework and sells all types of cycle bits and bobs,at least worth a look?

 

Regards,

 

langtry

Hi Lantry,

thanks for the info, but derekscyclesonline price per pair £42.98 inc del, Bike plus £41.50 per pair inc del, All Terrain £39.97 per pair inc del. Can anybody beat that?

Thanks

I frequently follow these prices, and All Terrain always seem to be the cheapest, even when someone else is running a special promotion on them.

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tyre sizes

They make marathon plus in

700x25

700x28

700x32

700x35

700x38 - These are sometimes sold as 700x40

Any of the above tyres fit a 700c rim, the second part of the sizing is the width of the tyre.

Hope this helps

Chris

They obviously make them in other sizes too besides 700c :-)

Edited November 18, 200718 yr by shootmesomeinfo

 

The Continental have many good reports on the internet, but they rely solely on a kevlar band not being penetrated. The Marathon Plus can absorb piercing up to 8 mm and still not be punctured. In practice though, I doubt if there'd be much difference.

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Continenatal also make a tyre that works in the same way as the Marathon Plus with a thick layer to stop drawing pins etc. Although interesting they do not offer the 12month pucture guarantee as they do with their Kevlar layered tyres.

Continental Contact Security

Thanks, I hadn't come across that before, and haven't seen any experiences of it.

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Help Needed Please

Hi Guys

I recieved my Shwalbe Marathon plus 26 X 175 MTB Tyres today for my Wisper 905SE which were the original size of the tyres supplied by Wisper, from:

ATC: Marathon Plus - Schwalbe - Mtb - Tyres

and the price was great!

However, I am a little worried as it appears to be a very slick tyre and doesn't appear not to be in the pic supplied by allterrain which appears to have a more substantial tread on the outer rim? I can see now that this was a computer generated pic as many more pics out there for the same tyre didn't appear to have such a dense tread for the outer part of the tyre,but on conducting searches I kind of picked the cheapest and didn't look at that time I know it is the right tyre and correctly supplied, but:

Anyway, I guess what I am asking is: Are these tyres ok for a little gentle sort of off road? I have had one puncture already on my SE and kind of didn't want another one as had to push it to work My off road to work consists of cycle paths with some debri, a 1 mile run on an, in some parts dented tarmac path of which I negotiate around dents at speed covered in debris, glass and leaves at times and can get quite muddy and wet in the rain. Will that affect my riding? I don't corner fast, so guess it won't affect that?

I did notice that they do an ATB Marathon Plus at 26 X 2.00, do you think this may suit my needs better? Although I feel there may be more adjustment to the breaks needed I guess due to size? Would using this tyre affect my speed on the road with rolling resist? I kind of think it may, but may not?

I certainly don't plan on going on too harsh mountain bike rides but my Powabyke and SE were fitted with hybrid tyres with the nobbly tread on the outside and this particular Marathon Plus, although it is an MTB seems really really slick and more roady?

I would really appreciate anyone who uses these tyre's in my circumstances could give me their views?

Sorry for the long post I just want to be clear before I fit them

Kind Regards

Mandy

Yes, that fairly smooth tread is the standard one and it's why they are efficient with low rolling resistance. I find them ok on my very muddy local lanes and have never had a scary moment with them.

The puncture resistance isn't from the tread, indeed the knobbly mountain bike tyres are often the worst for punctures, it's from the inner layer which both prevents pointed things getting through, and also tends to drive anything back out due to it's springiness. I recently got a couple of punctures from very long thin blackthorn spikes, but those are the only two in nearly five years of using these on my bikes.

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Yes, that fairly smooth tread is the standard one and it's why they are efficient with low rolling resistance. I find them ok on my very muddy local lanes and have never had a scary moment with them.

 

The puncture resistance isn't from the tread, indeed the knobbly mountain bike tyres are often the worst for punctures, it's from the inner layer which both prevents pointed things getting through, and also tends to drive anything back out due to it's springiness. I recently got a couple of punctures from very long thin blackthorn spikes, but those are the only two in nearly five years of using these on my bikes.

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I would definitely say these tyres do seem the best Flecc without a doubt by reading the reviews with puncture resistance but am in a bit of a quandry

I really don't know which way to go? If I contacted Terrain and they could supply me with the the ATB Marathon plus tyres (not stocked) and swap would that effect my rolling on the road? Or is there another one which is not standard with the pucture resistance you may be able to recommend? Somewhere inbetween?

Some of my cycle paths/off road paths have broken glass on them which infuriates me as it will stay there for days/weeks. I have negotiated and memorise it but just wish it didn't happen

I do plan to go further afield and maybe encounter more rough terrain as plan on using my bike more for recreational rides at weekends. I am a born worrier and thank you for your help and would rather have your advice first

I don't want a more bulky tyre slowing me down on the road, but need the reliability of an ATB in some circumstances. I guess I want the moon on a stick! lol

Regards

Mandy

The smooth tyres you have should be fine where glass is concerned. As you might imagine cycling in a London borough, areas of broken glass are the norm for me and I've never had a puncture in them from that, though my trailer tyres do all the time, without having the MP tyres. There's one tarmac cycle path I use regularly which is smothered in places with shattered glass and I just have to ride over it. It's a game with the youngsters around here "who can shatter a bottle the best". They even had a champion recently, a lad named Mason, though how they judge who's best I've no idea. Judging by the state of the roads and paths, they're all good at it.

I know the other members in here use the standard MP tyres and none report any particular problems with them on rough tracks and the like which many of them ride. Ian in particular has no problems riding some very rough paths, one of which he's illustrated.

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The smooth tyres you have should be fine where glass is concerned. As you might imagine cycling in a London borough, areas of broken glass are the norm for me and I've never had a puncture in them from that, though my trailer tyres do all the time, without having the MP tyres. There's one tarmac cycle path I use regularly which is smothered in places with shattered glass and I just have to ride over it. It's a game with the youngsters around here "who can shatter a bottle the best". They even had a champion recently, a lad named Mason, though how they judge who's best I've no idea. Judging by the state of the roads and paths, they're all good at it.

 

I know the other members in here use the standard MP tyres and none report any particular problems with them on rough tracks and the like which many of them ride. Ian in particular has no problems riding some very rough paths, one of which he's illustrated.

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Thanks Flecc

Maybe I should give them a try, I guess I just worry about using them in the wet of which we get a lot of and taking a corner a little too quickly.

I just wish that the kids of today had more respect for other users of paths/roads. I am sure they wouldn't like it if they punctured a tyre on their BMX/Mountain bikes? But I guess dad would fix it,

I will have to go check out Ian's illustraton Thanks for allaying my fears

Regards

Mandy

 

Maybe I should give them a try, I guess I just worry about using them in the wet of which we get a lot of and taking a corner a little too quickly.

Don't worry about the wet Mandy, the smooth tread grips well. It might sound odd, but grip is highest when the maximum amount of rubber is on the road, smooth treads being the best in that respect.

The reason for grooves in the tread is not grip but clearing surplus water. In bike tyres which run at much lower speeds than motor vehicles, that's only important when banked on corners, and as you can see, there are tread grooves on the outer areas that contact the road when banked.

To ensure those work properly, make sure the tyres go on the right way round as shown on the tyre walls, The tread has an "arrow" formation, so make sure the point of the arrow when it's on the ground is pointing to the back of the bike. That makes the tread bite into the water film and spread it out and away from the bike.

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I agree it's a great tyre, but it hasn't the puncture resistant layer of the MPs though echowind, and on hub motor bikes that's what most members value. I did over 4 years in an urban area on three bikes with MPs without a single puncture, and no other cycle tyre could do that.

As Schwalbe's own charts show, the rolling resistance is very little different in practice from the Big Apple. As you say, not for 700c, and I'd think that's unlikely anyway as it's too wide for most 700c rims.

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Don't worry about the wet Mandy, the smooth tread grips well. It might sound odd, but grip is highest when the maximum amount of rubber is on the road, smooth treads being the best in that respect.

 

The reason for grooves in the tread is not grip but clearing surplus water. In bike tyres which run at much lower speeds than motor vehicles, that's only important when banked on corners, and as you can see, there are tread grooves on the outer areas that contact the road when banked.

 

To ensure those work properly, make sure the tyres go on the right way round as shown on the tyre walls, The tread has an "arrow" formation, so make sure the point of the arrow when it's on the ground is pointing to the back of the bike. That makes the tread bite into the water film and spread it out and away from the bike.

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Thanks Flecc

I think you have convinced me now to fit the tyres and I guess it isn't like they are those super slick one's you can get out there .

If it actually stops raining tomorrow I will fit them, however, I have never changed tyres before so could be an experience

I also plan on giving my bike a good clean as after the torrential rain on Friday morning the bike is filthy and looks like it has been in a mud bath!

I am off to Halfords tomorrow to buy tyre levers, as I can't find mine anywhere or my little tool kit. I also want to buy a new foot pump as the hand pump I have is so tiring! Do you use one that you could recommend?

I believe you cannot use the rule of thumb with these tyres so plan on pumping them up weekly, or is that an overkill?

Thanks again

Mandy

Weekly is fine Mandy. I don't use a footpump even on the car, too much like hard work. The best all round I think is a stirrup pump, something like this:

Stirrup Pump

They are easiest of all, the whole body helping with the pumping rather than just a few muscles. There are smaller bicycle versions too, called track pumps, and those are good, but the full size track pump is best.

I recently gave one to my elderly brother who was fed up with footpumps on his car and he's delighted at how easy it is to use in comparison.

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Weekly is fine Mandy. I don't use a footpump even on the car, too much like hard work. The best all round I think is a stirrup pump, something like this:

 

Stirrup Pump

 

They are easiest of all, the whole body helping with the pumping rather than just a few muscles. There are smaller bicycle versions too, called track pumps, and those are good, but the full size track pump is best.

 

I recently gave one to my elderly brother who was fed up with footpumps on his car and he's delighted at how easy it is to use in comparison.

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Thanks Flecc

That looks like a good possibility for me and the price looks good too

Would I be likely to find one in Halfords tomorrow? Or even B & Q as I have a large one of those near by.

Mandy

I can't find stirrup pumps at either of those Mandy, though Halfords have track pumps, the smaller portable version for bike use.

It's mostly sports shops that stock track pumps now, for use on footballs, inflatable boats etc, and there's plenty of suppliers online like that one on the previous link.

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I can't find stirrup pumps at either of those Mandy, though Halfords have track pumps, the smaller portable version for bike use.

 

It's mostly sports shops that stock track pumps now, for use on footballs, inflatable boats etc, and there's plenty of suppliers online like that one on the previous link.

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Thanks Flecc, maybe I will have a look at the Track Pump tomorrow in Halfords. However, if it is pouring down with rain the tyres will have to wait till next weekend and may then buy a pump on line

Thank you

Mandy