Lockdown

[RossG]

All this is of course no laughing matter, however I'm finding much of it hilarious I have to be honest.
During WWII Brits were told "PUT THAT LIGHT OUT" and you did, for King and country. If you didn't you would end up in court, that was the law. Now we are told "STAY INDOORS" for your own sake as well as others and what do we have ? complaints and arguments are raging, social media is hotter than the weather and TV is full of it.

I live in a flat that's at the top of the building, I'm very fortunate to have a 300 Deg. view of my surroundings and what I can see outside is fascinating.
People are appearing in back gardens that have never been graced with their presence until now. Bikes everywhere which when this is all over will go back in the garden shed to carry on rusting. Joggers more than ever running up and down going nowhere as normal, and needless to say people in groups. Yesterday I spotted a bunch of neighbours having a get together outside, must have been a dozen of more with kids running around every which way, surely this socializing not distancing.
IMO the authorities are just soft, if I were a cop I'd been patrolling about with one hand on my Tazer, might save a few more lives.

 

[flecc]

During WWII Brits were told "PUT THAT LIGHT OUT" and you did, for King and country. If you didn't you would end up in court, that was the law.

You clearly weren't around at that time, I was, and the circumstances were very different. Showing a light after dark was always very wrong for obvious reasons, going out from one's home now isn't.

And enforcement back then was very different from what you imagine. Back then we didn't have bullying police officers challenging us about travelling. Instead we had polite posters on buses and trains asking "Is your journey really necessary?"

No enforcement.
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[soundwave]

 

[MikelBikel]

Restrictions in Ireland just been extended to 5th May, at least, woohoo, put foreign reg plate on car and carry on !
Officials still using lack of reagent as reason for lack of testing, despite IRL being 2nd largest *exporter* of reagent in EU, to the US. If we don't test a sufficient random sample, their figures mean nothing, bingo!

Concerns as ferry passengers drive into Ireland while State enforces lockdown

Concerns have been raised about the arrival of UK-registered cars into Ireland through the ferry ports. Dr Gabriel Scally said the traffic 'needs to stop' as the UK has no community testing for Covid-19. But Irish Ferries and Stena Line, which both had four ferries arriving into Dublin Port from...

extra.ie

 

[RossG]

You clearly weren't around at that time, I was, and the circumstances were very different. Showing a light after dark was always very wrong for obvious reasons, going out from one's home now isn't.

And enforcement back then was very different from what you imagine. Back then we didn't have bullying police officers challenging us about travelling. Instead we had polite posters on buses and trains asking "Is your journey really necessary?"

No enforcement.
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The law then was the same as now though, you followed it. You're quite right I missed the war but this is now a new war, a war on a virus. Then as now if you didn't follow the rules you were nicked and some were of course.
I'm not sure what a 'bullying police officer is' Tbh, I've just spent several months working along side the boys(and girls) in blue carrying out photographic surveillance work relating to drugs and burglary. I can get in places they can't and as a semi-pro photographer I have both the ways and means. Long story but end result villains locked up for two years.
There's an old saying about nobody likes a copper....until you arrive home one day and find someone's broken into your home and unbolted your 80 inch Samsung TV from the wall, then it's 999.

 

[flecc]

I'm not sure what a 'bullying police officer is'

They are the ones who have been making up their own versions of the law and trying to enforce it. That is why four forces so far had been disciplined for those excesses, the latest two being Northampton and South Yorkshire.

As for your ending, what rubbish. The police hardly ever bother to investigate thefts and only recover anything by luck. This is just being realistic, not anti police, since my closest friend among my neighbours for a number of years is a Met Police officer.
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[wheeliepete]

IMO the authorities are just soft, if I were a cop I'd been patrolling about with one hand on my Tazer, might save a few more lives.

I think for everyone else's sake you stay in your tower for as long as you can, regardless of any lockdown in place.

 

[Jimo]

Maybe our government would prefer Stealth Killing!

Jim

 

[RossG]

They are the ones who have been making up their own versions of the law and trying to enforce it. That is why four forces so far had been disciplined for those excesses, the latest two being Northampton and South Yorkshire.

As for your ending, what rubbish. The police hardly ever bother to investigate thefts and only recover anything by luck. This is just being realistic, not anti police, since my closest friend among my neighbours for a number of years is a Met Police officer.
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We're now hearing people are being ticked off for monitoring what shoppers put in their baskets ! is this some kind of joke. stores have been watching what shoppers pick up and put down for years, in fact I myself used that kind of intelligence when I run my own businesses. Many years back I used to work along side security staff at a large ASDA shopping centre chasing wrongdoer's, it was in my best interests to do so as I had a store in the complex.
I can't speak for your neck of the woods flecc but if I have a problem it's gets sorted. I have the private phone numbers of my local MP, head of the council in fact anyone who is anyone, I help them and they help me that's how things get done. The thefts, drug abuse and cycle thefts in my area got sorted because I sorted it but it needed the law to make arrests...and they did. Most people could not be arsed but I can and will carry on doing so.

@ wheeliepete I intend to mate, well after the so called Lockdown is lifted.

 

[flecc]

We're now hearing people are being ticked off for monitoring what shoppers put in their baskets ! is this some kind of joke. stores have been watching what shoppers pick up and put down for years

There's no comparison, the store doesn't tell people what they can and can't buy, they just research for marketing purposes.

The offending police were stupidly presuming they could decide what the public can buy. As the government has now confirmed, the public can buy whatever they like when in a supermarket and the police have no control over that.
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[soundwave]

pc plod telling the sheep what to do pmsl id tell them to fook off.

tho every time they come round my house they come in a team with ppe body armor full face crash helmets and fkn shields pmsl.

 

[Nealh]

I won't be one of the sheeple on Sunday for the first time in god knows how many years I get the whole day off so have planned on going on a long e- ride of approx. 100 miles round trip mostly off road.

 

[RossG]

There's no comparison, the store doesn't tell people what they can and can't buy, they just research for marketing purposes.

The offending police were stupidly presuming they could decide what the public can buy. As the government has now confirmed, the public can buy whatever they like when in a supermarket and the police have no control over that.
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Incorrect....the public can't walk into a shop and buy whatever they like, this is where problems are arising.
As I'm sure you already know flecc an item on offer in a store is not a promise of sale just an invitation to barter, the store doesn't have to sell it to you or anyone else. Incidentally they are not legally obliged to sell it at the price offered, that just an invitation.
The trouble has come about because stores have had to imposed restrictions as to the amount of certain items shoppers can buy. Some people were buying up huge stocks of items like toilet rolls baby products etc. then re-selling them in their corner shops at massively inflated prices, the news media is full of such stories naming and shaming those shopkeepers.
Because of that the big supermarkets put a lid on it, for example in my local giant Tesco you can buy whatever you like but only two of any one thing, only one shopping trolley is allowed and just one person to do the shop those are the rules at the moment. Some however are being greedy in helping themselves to what they like, this is sparking off arguments with staff and other shoppers which results in the Police being called.
This is where Police patrolling the aisles is being reported as they should to keep law and order, rules are being broken as well as the law and I'm all for stamping on it good and hard, let's see more. This very evening an elderly shopper was physically escorted from the store near me because she lost her rag about being told what to buy and started smashing her trolley into staff...what would you do?
A disclosure here...my local Mega Store employs more that a hundred staff most of whom I know personally, I also have friends and family members working there. In theory I could use my connections to get first pickings of produce coming into the store as staff members do, I could also get free deliveries, I do neither because I'm following my governments advice and staying at home.

 

[Woosh]

I'm all for stamping on it good and hard,

aren't you a bit over the top?

 

[Nealh]

We have many Sheeple on the forum.

 

[flecc]

Incorrect....the public can't walk into a shop and buy whatever they like, this is where problems are arising.
As I'm sure you already know flecc an item on offer in a store is not a promise of sale just an invitation to barter, the store doesn't have to sell it to you or anyone else. Incidentally they are not legally obliged to sell it at the price offered, that just an invitation.
The trouble has come about because stores have had to imposed restrictions as to the amount of certain items shoppers can buy. Some people were buying up huge stocks of items like toilet rolls baby products etc. then re-selling them in their corner shops at massively inflated prices, the news media is full of such stories naming and shaming those shopkeepers.
Because of that the big supermarkets put a lid on it, for example in my local giant Tesco you can buy whatever you like but only two of any one thing, only one shopping trolley is allowed and just one person to do the shop those are the rules at the moment. Some however are being greedy in helping themselves to what they like, this is sparking off arguments with staff and other shoppers which results in the Police being called.
This is where Police patrolling the aisles is being reported as they should to keep law and order, rules are being broken as well as the law and I'm all for stamping on it good and hard, let's see more. This very evening an elderly shopper was physically escorted from the store near me because she lost her rag about being told what to buy and started smashing her trolley into staff...what would you do?
A disclosure here...my local Mega Store employs more that a hundred staff most of whom I know personally, I also have friends and family members working there. In theory I could use my connections to get first pickings of produce coming into the store as staff members do, I could also get free deliveries, I do neither because I'm following my governments advice and staying at home.

Utter nonsense and a complete non sequitur. This is not about what the store is offering for sale, of course the public cannot buy what the store does not sell them. This is about the police illegally interfering in what they can buy.

The public can buy anything they like while at the supermarket as the government acknowledged yesterday after reprimanding Northamptonshire's Chief Constable for thinking otherwise and acting inappropriately. Why do you think he had to apologise?

But let me educate you further. I can drive to the supermarket, get out of my car, not join the queue outside and not buy anything. Then get back into my car and drive home, all completely legally with no possibility of a penalty.

I doubt you know why.
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[flecc]

I won't be one of the sheeple on Sunday for the time in god knows how many years I get the whole day off so have planned on going on a long e- ride of approx. 100 miles round trip mostly off road.

That's good Neale, I hope you have a thoroughly enjoyable day.
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[tommie]

10 miles maybe, but 100miles off road, no way??
How many people would you meet traveling those100 miles, possible virus carriers?
If you came off, fractured a leg, the workload on an already stressed out NHS?
What if everyone adopted that attitude?

Irresponsible in these times.

 

[flecc]

10 miles maybe, but 100miles off road, no way??
How many people would you meet traveling those100 miles, possible virus carriers?
If you came off, fractured a leg, the workload on an already stressed out NHS?
What if everyone adopted that attitude?

Irresponsible in these times.

I take note of what Neale posted that it was the first time in years, and only part of his intended ride off road.

Others around here are going out every day cycling ten or many more miles in the current fine weather, some easily doing one hundred miles a week.

Neale is taking this one opportunity to do the same on the one day he can. I don't see that as any more risky.
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[Nealh]

10 miles maybe, but 100miles off road, no way??
How many people would you meet traveling those100 miles, possible virus carriers?
If you came off, fractured a leg, the workload on an already stressed out NHS?
What if everyone adopted that attitude?

Irresponsible in these times.

I have had more chance over the last 10 days of falling off the tower scaffold at home carrying out at ( high level ) exterior work on the house then coming a cropper on my bike.

I'm not to bothered if I come across anyone ( I will expect it) as one of the parties approaching will make the decision to stop and give way, usually there is a some where to go like a field gate entrance, or cover in the hedges if need be or if wide enough pass by, a metre is all that is required to avoid touching.

One in ten of population will be out and about for exercise whether walking, riding, dog walking, GG riding or what ever exercise is taken, local exercise is what is hinted at I will probably be within 28 miles of home so local enough for me.

My first task is to visit my bees for necessary manipulation will need my bike trailer out for this, then later on after noon looking forward to going out on my ride and some sea air later on into the ride. Should get back home before dark.

I will ride with PPE as with work, head covering, eyewear and face covering with the addition of gloves. No gloves at work because they are useless in my job but we plenty of Alc wash, wipes and D10 sanitiser.