Leaving the EU

[flecc]

I would have thought the opposite, a pleasant day would see the remainers win, a wet day would see us out of the EU.

That's certainly not the consensus view. It's left wing and particularly Labour that are considered as broadly remainers, and the right wing, Conservative and UKIP, that contains the highest proportion of Brexiters

The left know Europe is predominantly socialistically inclined and protective of workers rights, while the right are the ones who bleat most about sovereignty and mourn the days of Empire and Britain past.

And it's long been known that the Labour vote suffers in poor weather, Conservatives in particular being more determined voters.
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[trex]

so in poor weather or on a wet day, fewer will vote to remain, we'll vote ourselves out. I suspect the govermnent knew that, they avoided May, hoping the Wimbledon factor is going to favour their side.

 

[flecc]

so in poor weather or on a wet day, fewer will vote to remain, we'll vote ourselves out. I suspect the govermnent knew that, they avoided May, hoping the Wimbledon factor is going to favour their side.

Yes, sorry I've been at cross-purposes. Not sure how much Wimbledon will influence left or right, but what you are saying is that the government wants out, seeing Conservatives have so many Brexiters?
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[trex]

dry weather and the excitement of Wimbledon season starting up should bring out more young voters, reflecting the polls more acurately. Remainers should win.

 

[flecc]

dry weather and the excitement of Wimbledon season starting up should bring out more young voters, reflecting the polls more acurately. Remainers should win.

Your explanation illustrates the complexities of judging the outcome. Given the multiplicity of factors, the task of the pollsters is probably more impossible than on any previous occasion.
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[Croxden]

The weather is the biggest factor on the size of the crowd at your funeral.

 

[trex]

except you won't be there to notice.

 

[flecc]

The weather is the biggest factor on the size of the crowd at your funeral.

Not mine, I'm not having one. Two things pre-arranged:

1) Body donated for any medical use, which usually means use for training would-be surgeons etc.

2) If with a disease listed precluding that use, body disposal arrangements already made.
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[Croxden]

Not mine, I'm not having one. Two things pre-arranged:

1) Body donated for any medical use, which usually means use for training would-be surgeons etc.

2) If with a disease listed precluding that use, body disposal arrangements already made.
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Oh flecc, you do have to contrary don't you, just don't be in a hurry.

 

[Croxden]

except you won't be there to notice.

I keep putting it off, I alway being accused of procrastinating.

 

[flecc]

Oh flecc, you do have to contrary don't you, just don't be in a hurry.

Not really to be contrary, more the thought that I might as well do something useful as the last act, and if that's not possible, not be a nuisance.

As for not being in a hurry, if I hang around too long I could end up as Soylent Green.
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[trex]

that's a pretty neat solution to sort out our NHS.

 

[oldgroaner]

I was determined to make an "Ash" of myself so arranged for a Pre paid Funeral, in the hope that no one turns up, especially me.

 

[neptune]

I have arranged to donate my body to Science........
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[Croxden]

They want to use my brain... As a door stop.

 

[jdallan]

Not mine, I'm not having one. Two things pre-arranged:

1) Body donated for any medical use, which usually means use for training would-be surgeons etc.

2) If with a disease listed precluding that use, body disposal arrangements already made.
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Snap! Arrangements already in place.

Jim

 

[tillson]

England's population set to rise by 4,000,000 in just 8 years. If anyone, especially young people, votes for that next month they will deserve what they have coming to them.

This is actually good news for me. It will heap further pressure on housing allowing me to raise more income off rental properties and also see the property values increase. Of course all done at the expense of young people who will see the first rung of the property ladder raised even further out of their reach, making them even more dependant on private landlords such as me. I stand to profit here.

Of course, some of this extra money that I stand to gain will have to be spent on private health care insurance because waiting times to see a specialist (hopefully never needed), will become dangerously long due to an unnatural and unplanned extension of the population. Don't be fooled, these new arrivals won't be heart or cancer specialists, but if you need a heard of goats moving from one field to another, you may be in luck. You know that the health service is not coping today and you know that it will get much worse if this 4,000,000 population rise happens.

Anyway, despite benefiting financially from staying in the EU, I will be voting out. It's better for the country's future. If people vote to stay in, they will be paying the price to people like me as I drive up rents to reflect ever growing demand, they can't have it both ways.

 

[derf]

England's population set to rise by 4,000,000 in just 8 years. If anyone, especially young people, votes for that next month they will deserve what they have coming to them.

This is actually good news for me. It will heap further pressure on housing allowing me to raise more income off rental properties and also see the property values increase. Of course all done at the expense of young people who will see the first rung of the property ladder raised even further out of their reach, making them even more dependant on private landlords such as me. I stand to profit here.

Of course, some of this extra money that I stand to gain will have to be spent on private health care insurance because waiting times to see a specialist (hopefully never needed), will become dangerously long due to an unnatural and unplanned extension of the population. Don't be fooled, these new arrivals won't be heart or cancer specialists, but if you need a heard of goats moving from one field to another, you may be in luck. You know that the health service is not coping today and you know that it will get much worse if this 4,000,000 population rise happens.

Anyway, despite benefiting financially from staying in the EU, I will be voting out. It's better for the country's future. If people vote to stay in, they will be paying the price to people like me as I drive up rents to reflect ever growing demand, they can't have it both ways.

well it's good that you're pleased either way. I have a different - but perhaps equally nihilistic perspective - I'm European, if the uk votes to leave so will I (i.e. leave the uk), no loss since I wouldn't have to live in an obsessively self centred culture, if the uk votes to stay I will stay, in the uk, not with any great enthusiasm (anglo saxon culture can be a depressing thing), but perhaps also an all win situation

 

[tillson]

well it's good that you're pleased either way. I have a different - but perhaps equally nihilistic perspective - I'm European, if the uk votes to leave so will I (i.e. leave the uk), no loss since I wouldn't have to live in an obsessively self centred culture, if the uk votes to stay I will stay, in the uk, not with any great enthusiasm (anglo saxon culture can be a depressing thing), but perhaps also an all win situation

Well I am pleased to hear that you have both possibilities covered. That is a very sensible thing to do.

I favour the option which is financially less favourable for me, so hardly self centred.

Your posts tend to take on a rather unpleasant anti UK tone. If the people here are as nasty as you make out, why did you come? Personally, I think you should leave and find the happiness that you seek. Its pointless staying somewhere that makes you unhappy.

 

[derf]

Well I am pleased to hear that you have both possibilities covered. That is a very sensible thing to do.

I favour the option which is financially less favourable for me, so hardly self centred.

Your posts tend to take on a rather unpleasant anti UK tone. If the people here are as nasty as you make out, why did you come? Personally, I think you should leave and find the happiness that you seek. Its pointless staying somewhere that makes you unhappy.

well, they're a mixed bag: certainly they're not all as utterly preoccupied with what they have, can get, may loose as you seem to be. Where I work in the NHS they are in fact mostly immigrants (you'll be in very, very deep doggy do when you need specialist care if all the immigrants have left). For now I find where I live in the UK just about a sufficiently liberal, shared community to feel it's OK to stay. I think there is a degree of projection here: you're the one who seems unhappy and preoccupied with leaving. For me reality isn't punctuated by binary decisions about happiness/unhappiness leaving/staying.