Leaving the EU
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he is our own Donald Trump.Wow, that's a rant and a half!
Odd how political names come in runs.
Under the recent labour government we had the Eds, Ed Milliband, Ed Balls and at least one other labour MP named Ed, (in a Dorset seat).
Recently it looked like the era of the Daves with Cameron and others.
But now it could be the time of the Donalds, with Donald Trump in the USA, the EU president Donald Tusk, and of course our own prime minister, David William Donald Cameron.
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Referring to Tillson's comments, I am actually also offended by what Hollande says. It especially sticks in the throat that the French should try to threaten us with scare tactics and I think it will have, on balance, the opposite effect of what Hollande is hoping to achieve. After all the British don't like being told what to do by other countries.
It's not worth either side getting upset, there'll be such scare tactics from both sides in all involved countries from now until the referendum.
It's the nature of the beast.
The one certainty is that we will all be thoroughly sick of the subject long before we vote.
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There's nothing wrong with Donald Trump. That seems to be the message coming out of the USA's democratic process.
There seems to be a problem for the more left leaning liberals have. They love the idea of democracy until it doesn't deliver the outcome they desire. They then vilify and smear the popular choice.
I look forward to President Trump. He'll be good for the yanks.
That process has already started, his latest utterances being far more moderate and conciliatory.
Basically he's acting for Trump, rabble rousing to gain the popular vote, then presenting himself as acceptable to the establishment.
How he would pan out with presidential decisions in our complex world remains to be seen. Personally I don't think he's got what it takes and would be ineffectual.
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It seems that there are two choices - remain in the EU or will we all go to hell, leave the EU and we will all go to heaven!
What a shame that at the moment we have a bunch of uninspiring politicians in all parties?
What a shame that at the moment we have a bunch of uninspiring politicians in all parties?
we can join with the US to trade with the EU, US style, and pay the EU 3% on tariff. Paying for access is the least painful option in the short term.
In the long term, there are so many issues that require Europe and world wide integration, we'll be forced to join with another large bloc to solve. The EU is probably the best bloc for us to join.
In the long term, there are so many issues that require Europe and world wide integration, we'll be forced to join with another large bloc to solve. The EU is probably the best bloc for us to join.
Another alternative to being part of the USA trading bloc is one that many here would like (though not me), joining the USA more fully, instead of the EU.
The UK could apply to become a US state like Hawaii and Alaska, adopting a simple state name like Britain for example, or alternatively become a US territory like Puerto Rico.
Either way we'd all have US nationality and all the pros and cons attaching to that.
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I'm sure you could avoid doing that, after all we don't call Donald Tusk Mr President.
Anyway, the dollars in your pocket would be some compensation.
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and at the thought of him doing something exponentially worse than invading Iraq as bush did, as he no doubt will, populist moron that he is, and having to - somehow - prepare for that
we can all remember some 'Bushisms'
Truth sometimes is stranger than fiction.
Just watched the Andrew Marr show. It was interesting to see how he treated Boris Johnson and would not let him answer a single question without interrupting and talking over him. This was in marked contrast to the deference that was shown to the German finance minister who was allowed to make his case for us to stop in and try to scare us. Again this just shows the bias of the BBC. I always thought Marr was a fair interviewer but have now changed my mind. Also interesting to see that the head of the Bcc has been suspended for saying we would be better off out.Wonder if that would have happened if he had expressed the opposite view.
I didn't think that he gave Boris a chance to answer anything properly, in fact I thought Boris was getting a little bit frustrated. Whether we like him or not he is entitled to put his views in a fair forum. It's quite obvious that the debate is being badly skewed towards the remain side and at the end of it the British people will not get a fair referendum
I don't think Marr has shown his personal preference in his show. I personally found frustrating the way Boris took cheap shots at the Euro. So typical of tabloid journalism. Not my expectation of a future PM.