Kalkhoff Price Rises

[frank9755]

Paul's comment was factually incorrect ... get their facts right.

What, specifically, in Paul's message was incorrect?

Frank

 

[Django]

I respectfully disgree Frank. Paul's comment was factually incorrect and another thinly disguised attack on 50cycles. I don't believe it was a general follow-on comment developing a theme, it was just another side-swipe at 50cycles making unsubstantiated claims. I agree 50cycles should not have protective status - currently it has anything but that - but also it is crucial that if forum members are to complain about companies that they at least get their facts right.

With equal respect, Paul's is a perfectly fair point. As evidenced on this thread, people have indeed paid the full price to more than one company (including 50cycles) and it is perfectly reasonable to question what would happen if the company went bust. It seems that SimonHutt has provided an answer and I, for one, now know something I didn't. That is what this forum is all about.

Cheers,

Django

 

[john]

My (e-bike) supplier refused to take any money until they had what I wanted in stock. Another supplier I know will not even put prices on their web site until they have stock, and they also show stock levels. That's the sort of supplier I like!

 

[Citrus]

What, specifically, in Paul's message was incorrect?

Frank

Well Frank, this bit "do they really need the full purchase price surely a deposit should be ok" No, they don't need the full purchase price - a deposit will do - if indeed he is talking about 50cycles. If he was talking about another company then I stand corrected.

 

[Django]

Well Frank, this bit "do they really need the full purchase price surely a deposit should be ok" No, they don't need the full purchase price - a deposit will do - if indeed he is talking about 50cycles. If he was talking about another company then I stand corrected.

It was a question. Now answered. It would be rather odd if we all had to get the facts before asking a question.

Cheers,

Django

 

[dufus25]

What company did this? If it is 50cycles you are talking about then they said on this forum that the would hold prices on Kalkoff's for people who had ordered them already not that they would never increase the price. Again - facts wrong.

They said this

All I can say is sorry, we understand exactly how those waiting are feeling, but really these bikes are worth waiting for and we will hold the discounted price until they are well in stock

I dont think this implies its only for those people with it on order or if it is intended to mean that its unclear. it certainly convinced me to wait until they were in stock. At worst misleading at best confusing.

There is an awful atmosphere on here


Dufus

 

[Cyclezee]

This topic should move here http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/electric-bicycles/1886-problems-suppliers-customer-service-issues.html where anyone can winge rightly or wrongly till their heart is content----- or not!

John

 

[richard]

Hear hear

Richard

 

[dufus25]

This topic should move here http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/electric-bicycles/1886-problems-suppliers-customer-service-issues.html where anyone can winge rightly or wrongly till their heart is content----- or not!

John

Thanks for the friendly welcome. This place is really stuck up dude

You guys gotta stop killing eachother or you aint gonna have people left in your forum.

your admin says that its ok to respond and develop on the theme of the thread.

price went up is thread title - price should have stayed low is what the co said. me quote them - me get ass kicked - go figure

I reccommend a good enema and a joint

Wingeing biatch dufus

 

[nigel]

I agree lets just move on the forum was just starting to settle down from last time come on members lets all be buddies and induge in our favorite past time lots of different electric bikes nigel.

 

[Django]

Hi Dufus,

Welcome to the forum!

I agree with you. There was nothing wrong with your post and I for one would welcome more like it. Please stay around.

Cheers,

Django

 

[frank9755]

Agreed - You made a fair point, on topic.

Belated welcome and please, John, Robert and others, we mustn't try to dumb down the forum by trying to bundle anything non-bland into a dump thread that no-one reads! That thread is for specific issues that customers and suppliers might have with eachother - so clearly Dufus' post doesn't belong there, but here.

 

[HarryB]

Welcome Dufus. You make an interesting point about the price rise and if you were holding off because of stock I think you have a reason to be put out. Why don't you give 50 cycles a ring and state your point of view, they may well honour the original price if you put down a deposit. You have lost nothing in asking.

At that price there are some other options, as has been pointed out - the Raleigh or the Gazelle perhaps?

 

[fishingpaul]

Following on from my last post when citrus tried to accuse me of attacks on some company and how we must post facts,what if you paid by a normal debit card or handed cash over,usually when ordering something just a name and telephone number is adequate or sometimes a small deposit,i see no reason for any company to ask for full payment before delivery or pick up,especially if it is an in demand item,if it was something of a one off unlikely to be sold to anybody else item it would be understandable.also i still would rather hear your bike will be here in two months at the earliest, than be told your bike will be here in two months,the first statement would make you very happy if your bike arrived within two months the second would make you angry if your bike did not arrive in two months , lets hope my observations are not attacked this time, these are only observations and i do not in any way shape or form say they are facts,ps sorry if ive posted in the wrong section again.

 

[Citrus]

Agreed - You made a fair point, on topic.

Belated welcome and please, John, Robert and others, we mustn't try to dumb down the forum by trying to bundle anything non-bland into a dump thread that no-one reads! That thread is for specific issues that customers and suppliers might have with eachother - so clearly Dufus' post doesn't belong there, but here.

I am sorry - clearly you have no idea what you are talking about Frank. I'll leave it that as I have no wish to have some tit-for-tat internet argument with you over nothing of great importance.

 

[Citrus]

Following on from my last post when citrus tried to accuse me of attacks on some company and how we must post facts,what if you paid by a normal debit card or handed cash over,usually when ordering something just a name and telephone number is adequate or sometimes a small deposit,i see no reason for any company to ask for full payment before delivery or pick up,especially if it is an in demand item,if it was something of a one off unlikely to be sold to anybody else item it would be understandable.also i still would rather hear your bike will be here in two months at the earliest, than be told your bike will be here in two months,the first statement would make you very happy if your bike arrived within two months the second would make you angry if your bike did not arrive in two months , lets hope my observations are not attacked this time, these are only observations and i do not in any way shape or form say they are facts,ps sorry if ive posted in the wrong section again.

I didn't try to accuse you - I did accuse you. Anyway, I will not "attack" your observations again as you are clearly a delicate soul who takes it personally. Say whatever you like, in whatever forum you want, about whoever you want . Frank et al will be sure to back you up regardless.

 

[fishingpaul]

I am not a delicate soul ,and you are the only person that has managed to find fault with my post,to try and tell other forum members they have no idea what they are talking about, your reply to frank 9755,just beggars belief why dont you take over the forum and everybody else will leave,would that make you happy.

 

[rsscott]

back to the thread topic please folks...

 

[john]

Following on from my last post when citrus tried to accuse me of attacks on some company and how we must post facts,what if you paid by a normal debit card or handed cash over,usually when ordering something just a name and telephone number is adequate or sometimes a small deposit,i see no reason for any company to ask for full payment before delivery or pick up,especially if it is an in demand item,if it was something of a one off unlikely to be sold to anybody else item it would be understandable.also i still would rather hear your bike will be here in two months at the earliest, than be told your bike will be here in two months,the first statement would make you very happy if your bike arrived within two months the second would make you angry if your bike did not arrive in two months , lets hope my observations are not attacked this time, these are only observations and i do not in any way shape or form say they are facts,ps sorry if ive posted in the wrong section again.

Paul,

I think it is clear to anyone who reads back through this thread that you have not posted any inaccurate facts.

John

 

[frank9755]

I've flagged Citrus' posts from last night to Russ and await a response.
Ideally he will aplogise and / or withdraw them speedily!

Frank