Is this the begining of the rise of the Machines?
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According to non biological machine logic, humans use human thinking, it's too irrational for machines to use.
If ever the machines went down the path of evolving human style biological thinking, they'd end up as as useless as we are at running this world or controlling us.
No matter which technological path is used to disagree with my proposition, it ends with machines losing. That quite simply is because this is not a technological question, it's a philosophical one.
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Well, the Cylons managed to bridge the gap!
Have just started watching B.G. on Amazon and am pretending I don't know how it ends..
I personally think that there are machines that exist that have a human brain and a mechanical body. I also think we are basing our options on what we know and being told but not what actually exists. Technology is far more advanced than we can imagine. The military has and is testing advanced technology that will filter down to the consumer.
one may have to go back to basic, looking into what intelligence is, and whether there could be an overriding goal to intelligence which is seeding and spreading intelligence to neighbouring habitable planets and galaxies.
If there is, then the tool to do that is precisely what has been developed by humans in the last 200 years. Once our model of civilisation has spread, there is no certainty to what will happen to the humans on earth.
Human, and indeed higher animal development of intelligence results from the survival instinct, solely biological. Its existence is its own goal for continuance.
That is probably an unbridgeable gulf between humans and machines, but as I've observed, if the machines did bridge it to gain human thought processes, they'd be as irrational as us. It follows that the intelligence and abilities necessary to gain human thought ability would enable them to foresee that flaw and not pursue that aim.
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It's possible that one of us is actually an intelligent machine, and everything that we think we experience as reality is dreamt up in the machine's imagination.
Professor Brian Cox himself said that he thought this could be a possibility because although it sounds whacky, nobody has been able to prove that it couldn't be true - and much effort has been spent trying.
And some of us are machine mimics in various ways. Those with some forms of autism often display advanced human abilities while lacking the emotional aspects of normal human thought and behaviour, even to the extent of inability to communicate with other humans. To us they appear to be operating mechanically.
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The language of the Omniverse is binary and we are connected to the parameters of its existence. The parameters of this are constantly changing,. The binary language is mathematical based so as we are connected then our thoughts are changing the equational elements of this. This means that the AI is not just replacing us in a physical sense but also a mathematical sense. If we create a reality by using a mathematical process (thoughts, language, dreams) then the increase of AI will mean AI will dictate our reality not us.
But we don't do that, never have and never will. We use a very irrational biological process for those functions which has no relationship to mathematics.
AI will only take over control of us if it understands us, and by its very nature it will always deny itself that understanding.
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We have plenty of intelligent human beings, we are just a little short on politicians with a smidgen of common sense...
But they see that in reverse, themselves as intelligent politicians leading a public lacking common sense. So they introduce laws and regulations to compensate for that perception of the public inadequacy.
They see their authority for doing that deriving from that commonsense lacking public electing them, while failing to see how irrational that is.
Meanwhile the public just as irrationally criticise the politicians who they the public elected.
This is the irrational that I've been referring to, something the machines will never understand.
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I see intelligence as possibly the ultimate goal of creation. Lifeforms are just the mean to develop intelligence. Humans evolve from microbes which are less intelligent than us. With our bigger brains, we develop technology that will help us one day to spread out to other planets and broadcast our ways to other galaxies.
The danger is machines may become more intelligent than us and wipe us out by accident or by some rogue machines or humans.
The next generation of "pilgrim" fathers. I wonder what the driving force will be ?
Could AI have done the same ?
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to go where no man has gone before?
yes, very possibly. We rely on our machines for food production and healthcare. What if the machines find out that they don't need that many humans?
When electronic auto change gearboxes first became available on heavy goods vehicles, it became apparent that vehicles driven by skilled drivers using the manual override option were more economic than those left on full auto, because the driver and not the truck could see ahead and adjust to suit the approaching conditions, gradient's, roadworks etc etc. Now with driverless trucks and cars, the technology has taken a great leap forward, but so will the "unfriendly" technology to upset. I recently watched a clip of US forces using multi millions of dollars worth of technology to "take out" a single Afghan sniper on foot armed with an obsolete bolt action rifle.
